zap gloves

**Mars** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 2:43pm

I am thinking about picking up a pair. To anyone that has ever owned any, how effective are they? Do they do a lot of damage? is it the same principle as a blackjack?

can it hurt your knuckles to use them?

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 2:51pm

Originally Posted by Mars

I am thinking about picking up a pair. To anyone that has ever owned any, how effective are they? Do they do a lot of damage? is it the same principle as a blackjack?

can it hurt your knuckles to use them?

Can I get a link ? I have no idea what the hell you are talking about . Maybe some pictures or something at least .

**Anna Kovacs** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 2:58pm

I think they're black leather gloves that have a few ounces of powdered lead in the palm. I remember seeing them in the "Spy Headquarters" catalog a longgg time ago.

I'd say they're probably more along the lines of a fistpack then a SAP. Give you a little extra weight in your strikes and probably make your fist tighter since you've got a little something to hold onto.

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 3:01pm

Oh I found them . They seem to do "burn damage" .

Brighter Suns Zap Glove MEL 0 P C 1pt/Stun 10 1 ST

Unlike the Techtronica version, the Brigher Suns zap gloves are black rubber studded with contact electrodes on the palm; they do a point of burn damage, and force a Stun/Shock save at -4 or cause paralysis for 1d10+5 rounds. A fumbled Stun/Shock means heart fibrillations and Death Saves.

http://www.verminary.com/cyberpunk/dragons.html

I think they should be fine for SD .

**Mars** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 4:57pm

Wow.. I'm totally surprised. I figured you folks like had those in the fourth grade or something.

Anyways Kat was pretty close. Zap or sap gloves are heavy leather gloves that fit and work like regular gloves except that they have a quantity of lead powder stitched into in the knuckles and back of the hand. The powder makes them heavy, adds inertia to your punches and I think it supposed to give them a significant ammount of extra force. The powder is sewn in there in a way similar to the padding in bag gloves and typical mma gloves, but not as puffy.

I am not sure if it's considered a deadly weapon or not, but it sounds like it could work famously. It seems possible that they could help you avoid cutting and splitting your knuckles as well.

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 5:04pm

Originally Posted by Mars

Wow.. I'm totally surprised. I figured you folks like had those in the fourth grade or something.

Anyways Kat was pretty close. Zap or sap gloves are heavy leather gloves that fit and work like regular gloves except that they have a quantity of lead powder stitched into in the knuckles and back of the hand. The powder makes them heavy, adds inertia to your punches and I think it supposed to give them a significant ammount of extra force. The powder is sewn in there in a way similar to the padding in bag gloves and typical mma gloves, but not as puffy.

I am not sure if it's considered a deadly weapon or not, but it sounds like it could work famously. It seems possible that they could help you avoid cutting and splitting your knuckles as well.

I don't know I would have to work the heavy bag with them for a few days before I say anything good or bad with any certainty . I could see well designed gloves working but I would worry about Phil-esque marketed versions to make a quick buck .

**Neildo** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 5:05pm

Originally Posted by Mars

It seems possible that they could help you avoid cutting and splitting your knuckles as well.

Do regular bag gloves not already prevent this?

What, are you hitting trees or something?

Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey

I could see well designed gloves working but I would worry about Phil-esque marketed versions to make a quick buck .

These have been around for a while, long before I ever heard of Phil.

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 5:32pm

Originally Posted by Neildo

These have been around for a while, long before I ever heard of Phil.

I am sure the viable and effective versions have been around long before Phil as well .

I was just at a loss as to how to relate " shotty , poorly constructed , gimmicky , and built around theory " . Without saying all that and include the intent of selling them to people who have never fought , will never need to fight , yet so concerned with selfdefense becouse of the fear mongering , that they are willing to own a weapon supposedly built to **** people up ( read premeditated assault if you ever use them ) .

run on sentances for the win !

**Neildo** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 5:41pm

Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey

I was just at a loss as to how to relate " shotty , poorly constructed , gimmicky , and built around theory " . Without saying all that and include the intent of selling them to people who have never fought , will never need to fight , yet so concerned with selfdefense becouse of the fear mongering , that they are willing to own a weapon supposedly built to **** people up ( read premeditated assault if you ever use them ).

Oh, gotcha. 'phil' sums that up nicely.

I think they were originally marketed as 'weighted' gloves, akin to wrist/ankle weights.

**Mars** · Posted On: 9/29/2006 5:46pm

Ok heres the requested link: http://spytechagency.stores.yahoo.net/defsapglov.html

lol "Phil - esque"? Is that by chance a reference to superfag poser Phil Elmore?

Anyways it appears that I got the spelling wrong in the title of my post. The terminology is "Sap" gloves ..... my bad.

They aren't bag gloves so i don't want them for that, and no I don't want them to hit trees with either.