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  1. Cuchulain is offline

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    9/29/2006 9:33am


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    Tai chi application vid with resistance.

    What do you think of this? The video is about 30 mins long but im only interested in the first 5 mins or so.

    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...tai+chi+tricks
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    What kind of competition was the video cutting to from time to time?
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     Style: Chinese Martial Arts

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    Wow, an actual video of real Tai Chi applications in competition. Funny enough, like it was always said, Tai Chi uses a LOT of Shuai Chiao techniques. Very nice, man!!
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    I'm very pleased with this video. It certainly shows people going at it alive and without compliance. I particularly like the "knee push" to the inside of the leg. Out of curiosity, I'd like to know the objectives of the competition, or the main strategy of the art.

    Is it strictly standup grappling and clinch with the purpose of throwing your opponent. I get the impression that by throwing in this case, it means either throwing to the ground or to push them away from you. KM, any thoughts or comments on that???
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    I'm very pleased with this video. It certainly shows people going at it alive and without compliance. I particularly like the "knee push" to the inside of the leg. Out of curiosity, I'd like to know the objectives of the competition, or the main strategy of the art.

    Is it strictly standup grappling and clinch with the purpose of throwing your opponent. I get the impression that by throwing in this case, it means either throwing to the ground or to push them away from you. KM, any thoughts or comments on that???
    I love it, straight up, dude. I've been waiting to see something like this and all I can say is, "It's about FUCKING TIME!!!!"

    The "knee push" that you speak of is called Stance Breaking and is pretty famous within my old school. I brought it up before in other threads in the past. I use it all the time as a means to disrupt someone within a clinch. It hurts like ****, especially if you don't train in Ma Bu/ Squats yourself pretty often. But once you understand the rhythm and effects of each torque, it works wonders (especially when combined w/ standing sweeps in conjunction).

    We need more videos like this, seriously. It's a strong start...

    Overall, it looks like a general Lei Tai Shuai Chiao match. Points for each fall on your opponent. I'd say that it's more "gentle" than Shuai Chiao as this is based PURELY on redirective force, rather than uprooting leverage.
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    A lot of the moves were Judo-like but without Judo grips, more like wrestling grips, similar to how Karo Parisyan does his throws. It looked cool but it also looked like they were trying to power push some of the moves.
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    Pretty cool Kuzushi; off balancing without grip reliance. Definitely pretty cool. Although, at times it did appear that the attacker was pretty off-balance when going for the move which would lead me to believe that you need to almost overcommit to pull it off and there would be a greater likelihood of countering. BUT the competition footage dispelled this presumption a bit.

    Definitely a pretty cool find.
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    Well, I might as well go ahead and say it first:

    Have we found "Th3 R3aL Tai Chi"?
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    Very interessting, A lot of it looks like Greco wrestling with under hooks, cross faces and whizzers.

    Not saying it has any direct influence from Greco wreslting, just that there are only so many ways to move a human body using push / pull techniques and that certain stuff gets reinvented all the time especially for no gi style take downs.

    Cool find
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    Yeah, I was thinking Greco-Roman hooks as well. I'd love to learn the gripping and offbalencing aspect of it and combine it with Judo for the no-gi tourny's I do. Also, GoJu, is your avitar from some anime; one involving rings of death? I can't remember the name of it. I watch a lot of anime and I might have seen that. If not, disregard.
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