Page 1 of 8 12345 ... Last
  1. #1
    I'm grindin' 'till I'm tired...

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    1,492
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Armbar in Self Defence

    This may be a bit of a dumb question, but if you were attacked by, say, a mugger on the street and maneuvered them into a 'regular' armbar, would you just pull their arm back as far as it went and then stand up?

    Is it likely to literally break someone's arm with an armbar if you complete it? Is there a strong chance it will permanently cripple them? Can someone potentially still beat you if their arm has been "barred"?

    I ask because I am but a poor ignorant striker who loves armbars and I was wondering - if you armbar someone fully, are they likely to be "out of the fight" enough for me to just stand up, or should I hold onto their arm and boot to the head/mount punch them for a KO or something first in order to be safe?

    Thanks for your advice, sorry if this wierd thread spoils the pristine grappler's board. ;)


    EDIT: Aha! Moved to YMAS. Why am I not surprised? ;)
    Last edited by Epicurus; 9/29/2006 9:59am at .

  2. #2

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Dallas Tx
    Posts
    151
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Well Royce Gracie Broke Jason Deluca's arm, so its been proven beyond any doubt that armbars break elbows. As for after you've mangled their elbow I guess it comes down to the person and their current state. If they're high on pcp then a broken elbow probably wont stop them but for a normal person I'd imagine it would be pretty tramatic.

    I guess if you broke their elbow and they didn't quit you could just remount and go from from there.

  3. #3
    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens! supporting member

    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    herndon, va, usa
    Posts
    3,521
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Is it likely to literally break someone's arm with an armbar if you complete it?
    yes.
    Is there a strong chance it will permanently cripple them?
    yes.
    Can someone potentially still beat you if their arm has been "barred"?
    yes.

  4. #4
    JohnnyCache's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    10,528
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    yes, you can permanently damge someone's arm with an armbar. It is a structural attack, not one based purely on pain compliance. I have seen arms dislocated and/or broken in this submission personally.


  5. #5
    Founder/GrandSensei of Joint British / Papua New Guinean Non-contact Lawn Bowls Jiu Jitsu Committee
    supercrap's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Least Cool Guy in all of Japan
    Posts
    2,296
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It won't work against wing chun guys though. Just so you know.
    Imports from Japan, Shipping Worldwide! Art Junkie, Scramble, BJJ Spirits, Reversal...
    Scramble Stuff

  6. #6
    Mr. Jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    3,309
    カンフー

  7. #7
    Mr. Jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    3,309
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by supercrap
    It won't work against wing chun guys though. Just so you know.
    I'm waiting for the pun.
    カンフー

  8. #8
    GIJoe6186's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Long Island,NY
    Posts
    1,981
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Thats whats so great about submissions. Even if the guy were high on pcp and didnt feel the pain, if you break hs arm he cant hit with that one anymore. Then you just armbar the other one cause its hard to defend with only one arm left. The guy may be out of his mind but he cant hurt you swing a broken arm.

  9. #9
    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens! supporting member

    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    herndon, va, usa
    Posts
    3,521
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    have you ever actually watched someone on pcp in action?

  10. #10
    Mr. Jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    3,309
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I heard the police will shoot you dead if they think you're own pcp.
    カンフー

Page 1 of 8 12345 ... Last

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO