Thread: Crappy Theories Thread (CTT)
9/28/2006 8:51am, #11
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FIGHTING WITH WEAPONS=FIGHTING EMPTY HANDED.
Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu practioners often state that their system is so perfected that by learning its emptyhanded forms, you will be able to weild a variety of blunt and edged weapons. They claim body mechanics and core techniques remain the same, and that the weapon is merely an extension of their body.
Why it doesn't work: As is generally the case in the Bujinkan, a total lack of aliveness and sparring allows subpar techniques and concepts to thrive. Furthermore, any reasonable analysis of for example knife cutting techniques will reveal few if any similarities with the body mechanics of effective striking.
9/28/2006 8:57am, #12
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The centerline one is good: This is from Austin Goh's Wing Chun Kung Fu site:
Another concept of Wing Chun is that of the center line. The centre line is an imaginary line running down the centre of the body, where the vital organs lie. Students are taught never to present the opponent with a frontal target area, but to turn to the side.
Never mind that just about every effective striking style, along with wrestling does it the other way around - putting your center line OFF the opponents center line.
Wing Chun tells you to create the worst possible angle for YOU while striking.
Definently the crappiest theory of all time.
9/28/2006 10:45am, #13
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Originally Posted by KempoFist
Now I don't think arm attacks are entirely bad, but they're secondary to striking the head and torso. You can use them to clear away an arm or disrupt balance. Taking a beat to attack a limb is a mistake unless the limb is in the way of something you want to hit. So we aren't talking about "destroying a weapon" at all.
Rebounding: Rebounding is a theory of continuous motion, often touted by those who failed physics in high school. The concept is to keep your hands moving continuously to not give your opponent a moments rest if he (on the off chance) were so skilled to stop your strikes. You can tell someone is "rebounding" by the sound of them slapping themselves in the chest repeatedly in between strikes (usually are chops, knife hands, low vertical punches and backfists).
You will often hear in defense of this theory, other PROVEN scientific theories such as "an object in motion will stay in motion." They argue that your hand is literally 'bouncing' off of your chest, thus gaining in speed and power...so theoretically the more they block the worse position they are getting into. The other often touted defense is of course a comparison to something proven....boxing. Boxers often roll their shoulders to keep loose and to keep continous motion so that their strikes are not telegraphed. Since boxers stay in motion....and rebonding stays in motion, they are clearly the same thing!
The problems with this theory are simple. a) you are dropping your guard, and will undoubtedly be punched in the face and b) Your hand hitting your chest, and then reversing direction means that scientifically your hand at one point stopped moving, and thus the entire concept of continous motion goes out the window. Your hands are NOT made of rubber, and do not compress to create a greater velocity after impact.
What a rebounder should actually do is learn to strike with less tension.
9/28/2006 10:50am, #14
Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn
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9/28/2006 11:00am, #15
Police arrests =/= fights among civilians. When police deal with a resisting suspect, they usually always take them to the ground before cuffing them. I see it on COPS all the time. One or two hold the suspect on the ground while another cuffs the hands.
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9/28/2006 11:39am, #16Originally Posted by KempoFist
9/28/2006 11:46am, #17
If I palm-strike you in the nose, the cartilage will go into your brain!
9/28/2006 11:47am, #18Originally Posted by pl4zM4Ranked #9 internationally at 118lbs by WIKBA http://www.womenkickboxing.com/wikba...rch%202009.htm
9/28/2006 11:51am, #19Originally Posted by Kidspatula
9/28/2006 11:53am, #20
You don't need to spar to know how to fight
Instead of implimenting sparring a system will try to drill every possible attack that may occur in a fight. This is common in a lot of Japanese Koryus, and gendai budos such as the Bujinkan and *Aikido*. One jujutsu school in the 1800's gained criticism because they had255 katas. Their argument is that the techniques are too dangerous, sparring creates aggresiveness, drills/katas replace sparring, it doesn't prepare you for teh str33t etc.
*This probably sounds weird for someone who practices Aikido to say this unless you look at my style field.*カンフー