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  1. PPlate is offline

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    9/27/2006 10:17am


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    Quote Originally Posted by Happycrow
    Pay very careful attention to your form: hitting a heavy bag tends to build very bad punch habits, especially a tendency to want to satisfy your ego by "pushing" the bag and rather than hitting it -- the former looks a lot more impressive than the latter, but will turn you into a sloppy, lousy puncher with bad recovery habits. The difference between the two would readily explain your elbow pain in that specific spot.
    Great! Thanks, I think that could be it.

    Is there an easy way for me to tell when I'm doing it wrong? I read somewhere that when you hit correctly there's supposed to be a loud smacking sound or something, I think it was El Guapo who said that...

    Appreciate your input!
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    A noise, a slight movement/bend of the bag, and that's it. The fact that you're hitting with a notable bend in the elbow only supports the hypothesis imho. You're supposed to focus into the target, not a foot past it. It should look unimpressive visually... otherwise you're pushing the bag. And your trainer should be given a hickory shampoo for letting you screw your training like that.

    I **love** boxing guys who work out punching heavy bags like that... it's like kicking a puppy, only without the remorse. You can roll with almost anything they put on you if you're light on your feet, and their lack of recovery leaves holes you could drive a truck through.

    In other words, don't be that guy!
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by PPlate
    Sorry, what's RICE?
    http://www.uihealthcare.com/topics/p.../prep4922.html

    Required knowledge for any combat sports enthusiast.

    Get well soon!
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    9/27/2006 7:08pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Happycrow
    A noise, a slight movement/bend of the bag, and that's it. The fact that you're hitting with a notable bend in the elbow only supports the hypothesis imho. You're supposed to focus into the target, not a foot past it. It should look unimpressive visually... otherwise you're pushing the bag. And your trainer should be given a hickory shampoo for letting you screw your training like that.

    I **love** boxing guys who work out punching heavy bags like that... it's like kicking a puppy, only without the remorse. You can roll with almost anything they put on you if you're light on your feet, and their lack of recovery leaves holes you could drive a truck through.

    In other words, don't be that guy!
    Happycrow,
    Thank you for that excellent reply, from the bottom of my heart. Its good that I found out early, so its definitely a blessing in disguise. If I hadn't had that pain I wouldn't have asked...once again thanks for sharing your experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud Shi Dist
    http://www.uihealthcare.com/topics/p.../prep4922.html

    Required knowledge for any combat sports enthusiast.

    Get well soon!
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PPlate
    Sorry, what's RICE?
    Rest, Ice, Compression, Egalitarianism
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    You're welcome. As the other gentlemen are saying, RICE that sucker, and get well!
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    Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
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    One note on RICE...

    For some injuries the Rest isn't what you want to be doing. I had an injury to my elbow - pain on the inside of the joint - and when I asked my doc if I should rice it he said that a lot of studies now show that moving it through the full range of motion slowly is better than immobilising it and will speed recovery time.

    How do you know which to do? Beats me. ask your doc.
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    There is another possibility out there to.

    Your punches should originate and lock at the shoulder rather than the elbow. I know this kind of feels counterintuitive at first but even at full lockout your arm should be slightly bent and the real lock should be at your shoulder. This will save you from overextending your elbows and snapping the connective tissue as hard as you can to lockout over and over.

    I don't know how I can explain the feeling of locking at the shoulder, but if your doing it right you won't feel your elbows at all.
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