Thread: Educate me on the octopus guard
9/27/2006 12:10am, #11Originally Posted by Jeice
I suppose it's the individual then. I've gone for a guard sweep, and then when they posture down I've gotten into this position, and instead of me holding them down or getting their back, they sink back and break my hold. By leaving my arm across their back like that, one guy actually passed into half guard and got an arm triangle on me. I guess I just suck.Knowing is not enough, you must apply...
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9/27/2006 2:12am, #12I have to call bull. I've done that position numerous times inadvertantly, and as long as the other guy is bigger or slightly stronger than me, they just posture up or sink back and I'm left with nothing. I wanna see this used successfully live.
9/27/2006 2:15am, #13
And I still think the shoulder lock is somewhat ridiculous. I can see it happening (hell, I've been getting kimura'd right and left lately, from all freaking angles) but the problem is more commonly and even with abs of steel when you take your weight off the posting arm your weight falls back some, letting them drive you down by the neck (which would create the possibility of armbars and omaplatas).
Oh great reviewer of bjj media, has that shoulder lock been done successfully in competition?
9/27/2006 9:00pm, #14Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
I can see it being an annoyance to help clear the arm so you can move to the back but otherwise....meh.
9/27/2006 9:52pm, #15
Given what some people have pulled off in comps, I'm curious what Aesopian can dig up.
9/27/2006 10:17pm, #16
While it's interesting that the guy has worked this game out, I'd advise people to work on their basics before trying this stuff.
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10/05/2006 3:52pm, #18
Originally Posted by Jeice
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10/05/2006 4:04pm, #19
Sometimes these 'new' positions make me wonder about helio's 'easier to teach a less intelligent man jujitsu' expression. How long is it gonna take to precisely label, indentify and market every viable or somewhat viable grappling position?
10/05/2006 5:12pm, #20
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Well, first we're going to have to work through the animal kingdom like the kung-fusters, until we, much like the kung-fusters, have an absurdly overcomplicated fighting system. Then I guess we can start working through other stuff. I should start working on my Viking Guard and Swedish Sweeps series.I pointed at him [the panhandler], bringing my rear hand up in a subtle approximation of the double Wu Sau guard that is the default hand position in Wing Chun Kung Fu.
"Step away," I hissed.