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  1. Ronin.74 is offline

    霍氏八极拳徒弟

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    Going back into competition after many years

    Okay everyone I would like some advice on what level I should enter a competition at. It is a FC Sanshou event, knees will be permitted.

    Here's the deal. When I was a much younger man I did a lot of FC sparring and even some amateur kickboxing, but it has been over a decade since I have competed in an FC rules match. I am planning on entering a SanShou event in October but I am not sure which division I should go into. Intermediate or Advanced? I have about 14 years worth of MA experience, I have done some FC sparring since my last FC match, which was about 11 years ago. Recently I have dropped about 17 lbs. (still have another 5 lbs. to go) in preparation and have been working extensively on my cardio.

    At the gym I have been working a lot of mitts and timing drills with contact, but since I have been out of it for so long I don't know what division I should go into. I have seen some vid of guys fighting in both Intermediate and Advanced Divisions for this tournament from the year before and I can honestly say that I have much better technique than the guys I saw in either division. What I don't necessarily have is as much ring experience or their youth.

    All opinions will be welcomed.:icon_smil
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    Tough call that can be argued either way. At the end of the day personally I would go in the advanced based upon your backround. I recently fought in a different type of even and did well against people who were much younger than me. (By well I mean I didn't get deystroyed but I didn't own either.) I have a decent backround but really haven't done **** over the last 5 years. It took me 3 months to get into semi decent shape.
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  3. Ronin.74 is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Elvis
    Tough call that can be argued either way. At the end of the day personally I would go in the advanced based upon your backround. I recently fought in a different type of even and did well against people who were much younger than me. (By well I mean I didn't get deystroyed but I didn't own either.) I have a decent backround but really haven't done **** over the last 5 years. It took me 3 months to get into semi decent shape.

    I hear ya, I've been working on dropping weight since spring, it has been a long ardurous process. I was also thinking of doing the advanced, even though it is totally possible that I may get owned in my first fight.
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    If your conditioning is good, go for Advanced. Don't worry about ring rust or the age difference . . . your experience and superior technique will win out.

    Either way, good for you and good luck!
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    SANDBAG LIKE A MOTHERFUCKR
  6. Ronin.74 is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex
    SANDBAG LIKE A MOTHERFUCKR
    So beginners division for the win?:new_all_c
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    霍氏八极拳徒弟

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    The link below has vids of Sanshou fights. The two fights in Ohio are from last years tournament. 1 intermediate, 1 advanced.

    http://www.chanskungfu.com/media/video-sansau.htm#1
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    Go advanced. No honor in beating people under your skill level. Also...a lot of advanced guys will be dropping into intermediate which opens up the advanced division. No kidding. Less guys in the advanced means less matches.

    In addtion, you may have THOUGHT you had more 'technique' than other guys in both divisions but as we all know - technique has a tendency to go out the window when your ass hits the mat.

    Finally conditioning is king. Muscular endurance and cardio are critical. But in your preparation I did not read you doing any sparring. Sparring conditioning for timing is absolutely neccessary. Going 3 rounds on the heavy bag or focus mits is much different than 3 rounds against a person. Both are good but 1 is better than the other. You will be tentative about getting hit whereas the other guys who have been in the game won't be.

    Advanced. Conditioning. Sparring. Win.
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    Thanks for the input Yrkoon,

    I wasn't exactly clear with my original post, when I said "timing drills with contact" I meant sparring conditioning for timing. Yes I am getting hit. I will admit that I am not doing as much sparring as I should due to time conflicts, but I do have a session lined up for tomorrow.

    Also I understand what you mean about technique flying out the window once I'm on the mat. I have not had that problem in the past, but my technique has been known to go down the crapper when I get tired.

    I still have 3 weeks to prepare and have increased my cardio and conditioning to try to keep myself from burning out too quickly. I am hoping to get video to post here regardless if I win or lose.
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    I would also ask if you have a coach/trainer for this tournament or are you doing your own training?


    The tourneys I have lost I failed to correctly prepare. One element of preparation is to have the right people around you so that you can train correctly. People who can push you. People who can correct you. People who support your efforts.

    IMO 3 weeks is not enough time to make much of a difference if you aren't actively competing and in shape. 3 months is enough time in that case.

    I have, over the course of my tenure here, posted various tidbits of advice about how to prepare, or rather how I prepare, for tournaments. I am a staunch believer that you need 1 incredibly difficult, make you want to puke, hands shaking, unable to lift your arms kind of workout per week. You cannot do that without an experienced coach. I have also espoused the need for cardiovascular fitness. That means sprints. I hate sprints. I really do. But there is no better simulator for the kind of lungs-on-fire-unable-to-catch-breath feeling you get while fighting.

    Finally - don't go in with an attitude of seeing how you will do 'win or lose'. Go in to win or don't go at all.

    Good coach. Exhaustion training. Sprints. Win.
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