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  1. ryu06 is offline

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    Ok.. well, the thinking man is similar to that. You're forearms come together as you close the distance between you and the opponent to defend against the hit. But both forearms are used in the case of the thinking man. One goal is to get close enough so that punches are no longer effective and you are within elbow/knee and grappling range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryu06
    Ok.. well, the thinking man is similar to that. You're forearms come together as you close the distance between you and the opponent to defend against the hit. But both forearms are used in the case of the thinking man. One goal is to get close enough so that punches are no longer effective and you are within elbow/knee and grappling range.
    how does it differ from the kickboxer "hide behind my forearms" style guard? For example, look at Remy Bonjasky and Andy Souwer.
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    It's slightly different because it gives you a more stable base since there is little chance of having any impact on your wrists as opposed to the kickboxer guard. The trade off, of course, is that you would minimize protecting your torso.
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    Doesn't that leave your torso and legs wide open and limit your vision?

    That's why I prefer the more all-encompassing defensive position...
    "Reason is a choice. Wishes and whims are not facts, nor are they a means to discovering them. Reason is our only way to grasping reality -- it's our basic tool of survival. We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss we refuse to see."
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnceLost
    Doesn't that leave your torso and legs wide open and limit your vision?

    That's why I prefer the more all-encompassing defensive position...
    I sparred a karate black belt once who used this stance. All I could think was, "SWEEP THE LEG!" But he ended sidekicking and roundhousing the **** out of me. Know your game, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meng_mao
    how does it differ from the kickboxer "hide behind my forearms" style guard? For example, look at Remy Bonjasky and Andy Souwer.
    They are not "Thinking Men." [Tm.--Ed.]

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    1/20/2007 2:25pm

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    It does slightly limit you're vision, but (again) it's a trade-off. There is no "perfect" defensive stance, and that's the rationale of the thinking man. The torso can be protected by using a combination (muay thai) shin block and by extending the thinking man. I think there are other ways too, but I'm merely a lowly white belt at the moment. In any defensive stance I'd say that the legs are always vulnerable, well.. unless you curl up in a ball...
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    I sparred a karate black belt once who used this stance. All I could think was, "SWEEP THE LEG!" But he ended sidekicking and roundhousing the **** out of me. Know your game, I guess.
    I sparred a guy who used a similar stance - I spent 4 minutes kicking him in his forward hand. The really sad part is that he thought he was blocking all of those kicks...
    "Reason is a choice. Wishes and whims are not facts, nor are they a means to discovering them. Reason is our only way to grasping reality -- it's our basic tool of survival. We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss we refuse to see."
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    Uh..is it just me..or, is any1 getting a picture of a pseudo-boxing guard..and charging full speed into the person...

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