Thread: Reevaluating Reaping
9/25/2006 12:14am, #1
I am tall. I have long legs. I should be the kind of duder who is reaping and tripping my way to LOL IPPON. I learned bunches of these little bastards back in Daito-ryu, and unlike virtually everything else in that wad of confederate money of a martial art, they are actually used in competition.
So what gives? Whenever I am trying such as De-ashi-harai or Ko-Uchi-Gari they are just high stepping and dancing out and I am left feeling rather stupid and alone, swishing my foot around on the mat. Sure this could lead into a shot, but if I wanted to do that, why am I not starting with a shot setup like pushing their shoulders or armdragging?
And god help me if I try Osotogari, for I will be counter crossfaced and look basicly a lot like Travis Fulton.
Recently i've discovered what I think is the root of the problem: Reap the knee, not the foot or even the calf. It provides so much more of a comfortable fitting-in feeling. I am especially besotted of O-uchi-gari from an underhook where I have jacked their arm and shoulder up. A lot like this.
Concurrent with this, I read this article which just confirms that Judoka are not to be trusted, and will steal your newspaper and **** your girlfriend even while they pretend to be showing you all these cool throws.
Anyway the feeling of "driving" rather than "tripping" is much more natural is what i'm trying to get across here. Which I probably should have known beforehand...after all, when was the last time I swept anyone competent from guard by kicking their foot out?
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9/25/2006 6:39am, #2
So you are reaping a leg that has no weight on it (i.e. they can step with it)?Locu5
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9/25/2006 6:47am, #3
I agree, sounds like either you are too slow with your entry or your kuzushi isn't strong enough.
I've felt it many times myself. I go in thinking I'm gonna reap that leg sky high. And I end up nearly tripping myself from the swing through nothing but air as they step back. Recovering from it is a bitch since people usually take good advantage of that.
And the reason I checked out this thread is because I thought it read "Reevaluating Raping"More human than human is our motto.
9/25/2006 8:24am, #4
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What Locu5 said: attack the leg with weight on it. I have the most success with de ashi when they're stepping forward and have already transferred the weight to that leg, but haven't let it touch the mat yet. If you want to do de ashi on a forward leg when they're shifting their weight to the rear, it's a little bit trickier. You'll have to cup their ankle with your foot and try to hold it in the air long enough to allow you to use your hands to yank them to the side and down. Think "sticky feet." It's never as quick a throw as the other way...it almost feels like you're felling a tree. Your opponent's fall will start off slow, but he'll gradually tilt more and more until he finally hits the mat.
The only time I have success with osoto gari is when I use it in combination with ouchi. Say I try to perform right side ouchi gari, but my opponent manages to pick up his leg. At this point, I'll take a huge step with my left foot and lunge across his body to the other side, dragging his upper body with me and planting my left in the classical osoto position. By this time, I have good chest to chest contact, my left hand is yanking my opponent's elbow directly down, his weight is 100% over his right leg, his left is waving helplessly in the air, and he's bent backwards and tottering. You almost don't even need to reap with your right leg at this point. I haven't been able to pull off one of those fancy 45 degree osoto gari's yet. Maybe that's something I'll work on this week.
9/25/2006 9:14am, #5
Are you telling him to reap the un-weighted leg?
9/25/2006 9:57am, #6
I'm having trouble visualizing. You move in to reap with your right leg, he steps back onto his, and then you attack the other leg by . . . turning around and reaping his left with yours? Using your right to reap the inside of his left? Tickling his fancy?
As far as sweeps go, Jaxon is correct. Catch the leg as it's coming forward, but just before it's set down onto the ground. Getting this timing takes a fair bit of practice.
I've also noticed that a lot of people unconsciously push the person away, sort of mirroring their foot movement with their arms. Instead, you need to be turning the pther person as you sweep -- at least that's what works for me.
For example, if you're going after their right leg, grip them under the tricep on that side and behind the neck on the other. Use these grips to turn them -- not only to stretch out the timing of their step, but during the sweep itself.
9/25/2006 11:46am, #7
To take reaping to its natural terminus. Imagine a one-legged man, now make everyone you fight stand on one leg. Then attack that leg.
The knee height thing is a nice adjustment but it is secondary to good kuzushi.
9/25/2006 1:02pm, #8
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The guys from the BJJ school that came in and tapped me out four times in 60 seconds made me a believer too.
9/25/2006 1:10pm, #9
Originally Posted by Don Gwinn
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9/25/2006 1:52pm, #10
Mostly an assload uchikomi to kake, we tend to get more full repititions when practicing the single-leg and double-leg variations that we do. Before a tournament, those competing start sparring from their feet a couple weeks out.
Last edited by Locu5; 9/25/2006 1:54pm at .Locu5
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