We could probably say the same things for Antonio Inoki. He was also precursor in MMA in my opinion, but instead of talking, he acted.
Vale Tudo competitions existed way before Bruce Lee was even born?
I'm so sick of this damn argument. Look, UFC started as a way to prove the Gracie's ability to dominate everyone who lacked a ground game. It wasn't "Bruce Lee said we needed to fight for real."
Originally Posted by Hannibal MAP
MMA evolved due to fighters realizing that they needed to train in multiple things, AND from regulations and laws that kept being forced upon it. It didn't evolve from people saying "Bruce Lee thought we should do it this way."
Guys, your need to over-debate the late Mr. Lee is proof to my guess, that an anonymous and honest poll with the question "did Bruce Lee influence your interest in martial arts" would show a pretty high (i.e. overwhelming) number of "yes" answers.
Whether you ended up doing BJJ or LARPing, MOST of you started off with B. Lee movie posters on your walls.
I took them down a long time ago.
CLICK & WATCH:
I got BULLSHIDO ON TV
"Bruce Lee sucks because I slammed my nuts with nunchucks trying to do that stupid **** back in the day. I still managed to have two kids. I forgive you Bruce."
- by Vorpal
Bruce lee had nothing to do with my taking up training, neither did it factor in any of the people I train with. Bruce Lee is more of an inspiration to people who don't know much about martial arts so they repeat what they hear on tv or in books/magazines.
Cro Cop made me want to take up martial arts seriously. Van Damme made Cro Cop begin martial arts. I'm a big fan of Van Damme. Therefore I don't give a damn about Bruce Lee.
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Originally Posted by AnnaTrocity
(Cause $$$$$$$$$$$ rules the schools, yo.)
Last edited by polishillusion; 1/06/2007 3:57pm at .
Not sure of your actual motive for/response to the question, "Is there actual footage video of Bruce Lee fighting?" but, years ago, a half hour TV interview with Lee was rumoured to have existed, but to have been lost. Years later, that "lost interview," finally surfaced. Now people cross hairs about it's title, "The Lost Interview." It's not lost, they argue. unaware of the reason for it's title. The same was rumoured of footage of the last film he was working on. Footage we now have. There are rumours of lost film footage of Lee in actual combat. Every so often, a picture of one of those clips will surface.
For example, http://images.google.com/images?ndsp...ce+lee+footage (the image of him squaring off with someone -not the one-inch punch image also on the hereinabove link). Perhaps one day more will be found. Perhaps not.
It's a difficult thing, given how rare footage of any real full competition for that period is. That along with the fact that Lee was practicing full contact and grappling at a time in American Martial Arts competition when neither were the norm. Grappling was not practiced in popular competition and very light or no contact were the basis of winning most mainstream matches. Add to that that it appears that Lee did not compete extensively, if at all; citing it's detrimental effect on training for the realism he so adamantly stood for.
Personally, I believe that if he were alive today, and in his prime, and if he were to compete in today's mixed martial arts environment, he would do as well as a Matt Hughes, if not better. Though I doubt he'd be competing - he was big on real combat.
Unbeatable? Who knows? Who cares? If it could be proven he was/is unbeatable, he'd still have his detractors! So that in the end, what is ubeatable is the simple fact that just as in so many other areas of life "you can never please anyone," such is the case here.
Nevertheless, thank you for challenging me to, "Think on These Things" (Kahlil Gibran), though. I've ended up realizing that regardless of Bruce Lee's fans or detractors intents, by taking my own extra mile, researching my own experience, thinking things through, I'm either wiser for it, or unexpectedly in possesion of a gem I can apply in my life. I find myself back at Lee's "Using no way as a way, having no limitation as a limitation," once more. Thankyou...