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  1. Muqatil is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinbushi
    Damn straight, I dare you have a life. Get back on this board and post.

    I'm recovering from a couple days in Vegas and a week of running all over California. I need a vacation to recover from my vacation. :icon_geek

    I did get some good training in though. Still feeling the effects of it.
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  2. GREENMAN is offline

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    I trained in Bujinkan from 1984 to 1994 actively and achieved sandan. Back then the training in the dojo was a lot of fun and we were encouraged to make the techniques our own and be effective. But most of the other dojos merely followed Hatsumi like zombies without thinking or understanding the techniques or philosophy. After being inactive for many years I went back to Bujinkan to see how it had developed. And I was shocked to see that it had become even worse than in the early 90īs. It is a personality cult around Hatsumi. Even the high ranked people think they have to go to Japan several times a year in order to develop. In fact, they are imitating Hatsumi most of the time. The soke, I have heard, claims to have many new things to teach his students. And he now and then says that, previously I did not show the real thing, but now I will. 10 dan has increased to 15 dan. More grades, more money. Great business. But there are also persons who never cared for the circus around Hatsumi and kept away and trained hard. I used to be one of those persons.
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  3. dweidman is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/12/2006 2:07am


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    Quote Originally Posted by GREENMAN
    ...10 dan has increased to 15 dan. More grades, more money. Great business...
    Not that it really matters -- but grades above judan are free.

    Just thought you should know.

    -Daniel Weidman
    Bujinkan TenChiJin Guy...
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  4. GREENMAN is offline

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    Tanemura and Manaka left Bujinkan for various reasons. Manaka Sensei wrote on e-budo forums that Bujinkan now is "Hatsumi Ryu". It is not so much about traditional techniques and budo philosophy, but more about Hatsumiīs version of it. I donīt think thereīs anything wrong with that. But I think that a true student of Hatsumi should do like him. Learn the basics and then develop his own version of the art instead of worshipping Hatsumi! It is so lame.
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  5. GREENMAN is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/12/2006 2:15am

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweidman
    Not that it really matters -- but grades above judan are free.

    Just thought you should know.

    -Daniel Weidman
    Bujinkan TenChiJin Guy...
    Ok, I didnīt know that.
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  6. Doctor X is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Does one have to travel to Japan to receive these grades?

    --J.D.
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  7. GREENMAN is offline

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    10/12/2006 4:05am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor X
    Does one have to travel to Japan to receive these grades?

    --J.D.
    I think you can order them directly from Hatsumi. :sleepy1:
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  8. dweidman is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor X
    Does one have to travel to Japan to receive these grades?

    --J.D.
    Good question.

    I suspect not... but don't know for sure. I know you don't have to go do Japan to get your Judan - so it stands to reason you don't need to go to get rank above judan...

    -Daniel
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  9. Virus is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Weidman. What bujinkan material do you regularly use during sparring?
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  10. seansnyder is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/12/2006 8:01am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor X
    Does one have to travel to Japan to receive these grades?

    --J.D.

    No you don't-I actually know a few people who have received rank after 10th dan via the mail from Hatsumi




    Sean Snyder
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