Thread: some more bujinkan videos
9/22/2006 12:45pm, #1
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some more bujinkan videos
these were posted by sean askew on kutaki a couple of days ago, i thought i would post these here as virus seems too have missed them ( i wonder why )
first he shows the kata and breaks it down step by step and then speeds it up into a more realistic scenario.
for those that dont know mr askew is one of the higher ranking bujinkan guys that also has quite a few professional fights under his belt.
9/22/2006 1:24pm, #2Originally Posted by shinobi_jebus
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9/22/2006 1:44pm, #3
Those videos demonstrate everything that is wrong with the Bujinkan; none of those techniques could ever actually work against someone who is actively resisting and fighting back. Only drunken idiots punch like that, and nobody who wants to hurt you reacts to kicks and joint locks in that manner.
Not once are the techniques ever demonstrated in a dynamic “alive” manner. They are instead all done against completely compliant partners following the script and using a “broken rhythm” demonstration style.
9/22/2006 2:27pm, #4
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9/22/2006 2:52pm, #5
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Those guys in the video punch like I do. But then again, I really suck ass.
Really, the positions that those guys are in before the technique is applied is so bad, even I could make up something on the spot to take em down, etc. This is exactly why I quit TMA's.
That and getting my ass beat.
9/22/2006 4:03pm, #6
That sucked pretty hard.
I have to go teach a class now so I'll comment on it more later.
9/22/2006 4:21pm, #7
I guess if I can't get to sleep some night, I could watch these videos.SEANBABY:
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9/22/2006 4:23pm, #8
All the techniques in the first video: all the partner has to do is drive forward when the person performing the defense pulls back and they take him down and end up in side control. I'm talking just tackle him, not even with good technique. Seriously, why would you ever do that?Originally Posted by Osiris
9/22/2006 6:42pm, #9Originally Posted by shinobi_jebus
Do these technqies work on a mobile, activly resisting partner? The video demonstrates dead patterns.
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9/22/2006 7:21pm, #10
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If the person who teaches a technique is tough, shouldnt we at least consider it?
I mean yea , if the person resists the technique, it makes it substantially harder. But by that line of reasoning, ive never pulled up a kimura in closed guard, and hence the technique sucks.
Also by the last sequence of that first vid. While the punches sucked. He had a double grip on the sleeve and then performed the technique when his opponent pulled back.
Sometimes also, you dont have the presence of mind to tackle the guy when he steps back. Even if its impossible to tackle him when he does step back.
Edit: while the grip is different in this clip, and theres no kick. Arguably the kick is to bring his head down. And the judoka already had his head down. The lock is the same (elbow lock). So the technique in this video demonstrate about the same principle.
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