Weights info

[pauli]

Don't do that.

but it's so entertaining when the inevitable happens!

[PirateJon]

What Rush said. I'd also say there's better ways to hit those other muscles than with a modified BP.

[Lights Out]

I tried the thumb parallel once, and I don't think I'll try it again... you know, you can't always count on luck.

[dzow]

When lifting on benchpress. chest press, lat pulldown, or dumbells I am using a system like this:

3 reps, 12, 12, 12. Then when that is doable, add more weight, which usually drops me back to about 12, 7, 5, then work up to 12 12 12 again, repeat.

is 12 too many to be doing? should i be using more weight but going for fewer reps? like aim for 3 reps of 6 or something?

Any info appreciated.

Thankyou.

12 is a rep range to use generally with the goal of hypertrophy... You need to clarify what your goals are and then more useful, individualized advice is possible.

[Lights Out]

While the goals thingy is hip and all, I'd say it depends on the subject's experience with weights.

I mean, this being and MA forum, many people jump on the "no sarcoplasmatic (sp?) hypertrophy, please!" wagon, and tend to recommend loew reps for newbies with the weights.

I'm not sure somebody who has never touched a dumbell should do less than 8 reps, or even 12 reps to get started in this discipline. I know some people don't want to get buff (becasue they want to stick to certain weight division, or something like that), but it's not like you're gonna pack a ton of muscle in a few weeks with moderate/high reps.

I'd say multisets at 12 reps, not reaching concentric failure is a good way to start, specially if you're not proficent enough at certain lifts. After a couple of months with that scheme, you may want to swithc to another, depending on how good your form is. And have in mind that most trainers advocate at least a year of this "newbie scheme".

[Amakuma]

I use a scheme similar to Joe Defranco's Westside for skinny bastards + strongman lifts, training myself and my athletes because i find it gets solid results fastest. But for my new athletes i would'nt like them to attempt such a program without supervision, ie a few unusual movements that require some coaching. Check out these T-nation articles

Program Design 101 (good read for anyone, concerning set/ rep confusion)
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=299prog2

Chad waterbury's set rep bible
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....5-091-training

MMA inclined folks (more adavanced protocal, when Conditioning and mobility are thrown in)
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1034530

[Lights Out]

I use a scheme similar to Joe Defranco's Westside for skinny bastards + strongman lifts, training myself and my athletes because i find it gets solid results fastest. But for my new athletes i would'nt like them to attempt such a program without supervision, ie a few unusual movements that require some coaching. Check out these T-nation articles

Aye, telling someone new to lifting to perfomr low rep high weigts lifts is kinda dangerous, you have to focus on getting proper form and accustoming your body to work with weights first. I'm a firm beleiver in progressiveness when it comes to physical activities.

Program Design 101 (good read for anyone, concerning set/ rep confusion)
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=299prog2

Chad waterbury's set rep bible
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....5-091-training

MMA inclined folks (more adavanced protocal, when Conditioning and mobility are thrown in)
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1034530

All good reads, specially the "program desing 101" by Mike Robertson. Robertson has a lot of interesting articles, easily understanable by people new to training.

Here you can find a list of a whole lot of his articles on the net.