Sorry to ask a beginner question, but how long were you training in kickboxing or muay thai before you started sparring? In bjj I started getting my ass kicked first class, but I haven't done any sparring in the few muay thai classes I went to. Is it normal for beginners to train for a while before sparring? Thanks
some places won't let you spar for several months, my current school has people sparring on their first day. In a controlled setting with proper supervision I see no issue with beginners sparring, and I think it contributes greatly to a person's progression, even as a beginner.
Originally Posted by haji
lots of places will wait a couple of months. few reasons for this-
1- the amount of tough guys who come in off the street and just want to brawl. we dont want or need these people coming in.
2- newbies cant do **** anyway so whats the point? they arent going to learn anything from throwing ugly haymakers and getting smacked around.
3- its a waste of other fighters time to spar with someone who doesnt know what they are doing. if we let every nub who walked in the door spar their first week we would be inundated with nooberosity. if you make them hit pads for a month you know they are dedicated.
I dont really recommend sparring because you build bad habits when your technique gets sloppy. i think it's best to just do drilling so that when you actually need your techniques they're perfect.
That sounds like some irony.
I guess a couple of months isn't a big deal to wait before sparring, although fighting seems like to only way to learn anything you can use. I recognize two of yall from nashville, I think I rolled with one of you in a no gi class.
Yes, I was actually being sarcastic, though it was a more or less legitimate paraphrasing of stuff I've heard before.
I have no issues with newbies sparring really, though how much they'll get out of it is questionable.
You probably rolled with me there, as I was the only one really doing BJJ in nashville.
depends on how they train i think. guys at our gym are usually competetent enough after a month or so of padwork when they get thrown into sparring. you can tell they have been training. but i was at another club when they were introducing some guys to the sparring class after a couple of months and you wouldnt think they had been doing anything at all. if your padwork consists solely of standing in front of someone throwing combos then no, it probably won't help a whole lot
The sooner you're hitting other people, the better.
coming from you that doesnt exactly mean a lot
Never taken any MT class, but I've been checking around a few MT and San Shou schools... and this is what I got regarding the OP's question:
- The MT place won't let newbies spar for a couple months. It will be strictly conditioning and pad work before they let you.
- The San Shou place is similar. They'll keep students for about a month or two in their 'kickboxing' class. Then, they are allowed to participate in the San Shou program (sparring including)... I got the feeling they wanted to avoid wasting sparring/San Shou time with people that only want the exercise, or as Alex said, brawlers who just want to bang and have a big chip on their shoulders.
In both places, however, they won't hesitate moving a student up to sparring if he/she shows progress.
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