Thread: Omoplatarmbar from Rubber Guard
9/17/2006 10:42pm, #1
Omoplatarmbar from Rubber Guard
No, that's not a typo.
The second technique I took photos of today was a move I thought I developed. But I didn't. I "made it up" one day and was further convinced of my genius, but later realized that I'd seen it in Nino Schembri's omoplata instructional and forgotten it, until it subconsciously resurfaced while I was rolling. Nevertheless, I've taken it and infused it with the rubber guard I picked up at Eddie's seminar, which is what I present to you today.
Notice that I don't use any gi grips, so don't cry for a no-gi version just because my dummy is wearing a gi.
My training partner is Jon, who was awarded his blue belt just yesterday.
Jon is in my closed guard with good posture (head up, back straight, hands on my chest).
I open my guard and put my feet on the floor, scooting back as I sit up and gable grip behind his head.
I fall back, pulling him down to break his posture. My right foot goes to his hip, and if I can't step on his hip, I know I'm too close and need to scoot higher. I need to be able to push his hip away to keep from being stacked.
Now and throughout this and all rubber guard moves, keep constant pressure with your legs, squeezing your knees, curling your legs. This will prevent them from pushing your legs down and driving a knee in.
Notice how he put his hands on my chest. If he just posted on the floor I'd skip ahead and go straight to overhooking and New York.
I bring my left foot high on his back and hook under it with my right wrist for mission control. Notice that I am not using the fingers or even the palm of my hand, but the actual wrist.
Squeeze knees, leg curls.
My left fist comes under his right elbow and punches up through the inside.
I zombie my hand to the sky, which puts his arm on the ground and in my armpit so I can overhook it.
With his arm overhooked, I hug around my knee and grab my shin for New York. Squeeze knees, leg curls.
I let go of mission control with my right hand and do a big circular karate block over his head, bringing my arm down on the other side of his head.
I regrip my shin with my wrist for what is called chill dog. Why? Because by now they know you want the omoplata and will try to hug your leg to stop you from turning out for it, so you need to "chill, dog" and wait for it.
Not content to chill, I pull my foot in front of Jon's face.
Time for the kung fu move, which may be hard to understand from photos since it's a seemingly minor movement but one that Eddie is very adamant about being done precisely. Without taking my hand off my shin, I lift my elbow and circle my forearm behind my foot.
As it comes around, I straighten my foot and bring my palm to the other side of my shin.
With my hand now on the other side of my ankle, I push it, forcing his head away and turning my so I can enter the omoplata.
But as I'm turning out for the omoplata, Jon grabs my knee and presses it to the ground, trying to stop me and probably start bringing his knee through my guard.
I reach out and grab his elbow.
I yank his elbow to me as I kick my leg straight, breaking his grip off my knee.
With his arm pulled to me, I triangle my legs around it and the arm in the omoplata.
Both hands grab his wrist and make sure his thumb is pointing up as I pull his arm down and arch my hips to submit him with an armbar. Or an omoplatarmbar, as it were.
If he managed to pull his elbow out of the armbar, I can just go back to the omoplata.
9/17/2006 10:55pm, #2
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This is fantastic. <3 rubber guard
9/17/2006 11:22pm, #3
At the seminar, Eddie also showed another grip to use to break posture. You basically RNC their face. From the front:
And the back:
Falling back to break posture:
9/18/2006 12:53am, #4Originally Posted by Aesopian
9/18/2006 1:15am, #5
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You don't even have to use rubber guard for this combination. If you go for an omoplata and your opponent defends by posturing and turning into you, you can get your foot under their face and do the same thing. I use it all the time and have always called it the X-Armbar. One of the keys though, you can't grab the gi, make sure you grab his wrist and he won't be able to jerk his arm out.Originally Posted by Osiris
9/18/2006 7:37am, #6
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great stuff thanks.
9/18/2006 9:11am, #7
That's pretty sweet. I'll try it out ASAP. Thanks.Dedicated to legs and the disrespecting thereof.
9/18/2006 9:14am, #8
Samfoo is correct. You can do this armlock off any omoplata from any guard. I often get this on standing guys when I go for an omoplata from spider guard. They'll usually lose balance and fall, making me come up on top with both of their arms still triangled, where I'll finish the armbar.
9/18/2006 10:14am, #9
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NOW I understand what an Omaplata is....it's been something beyond my comprehension for some time, but I see what you mean now, despite how you finished with an armbar.
And that FNC? The pressure is being put on his neck by your shoulder?Knowing is not enough, you must apply...
...Willing is not enough you must do ~Bruce Lee
9/18/2006 10:24am, #10
I'm not trying to choke or neck crank anyone with the FNC. I just use the grip to lock all of my body weight to their head so I can fall back and break their posture. Then I'm just going to mission control and continuing with the move like normal. I'd need 1) big guns and 2) to be a huge asshole to try to finish the face crank.