Deadly Dojo

**Lominus** · Posted On: 11/17/2009 9:56am

"Tapioca"? "Nemasis"? Nooooo.... these kids are gonna' grow up just fine.

**MattB** · Posted On: 11/17/2009 10:38pm

Originally Posted by beccaxoxo121

i was a member of that dojo for 3 and a half years and it was extremely legitamit...yes his name is Lord Utmost his wifes name is devine love, and he has 7 children and they do have weird names but thats just how he wanted it apparently. there is cassanova, tapioca, empress, lord, nemasis, and shy-freshia. when i attended this dojo i learned respect. not many other places can acaully teach you that. i acually got inducted into the "karate hall of fame" in long island new york, what an experience. This dojo is like a small family--or at least it was when i was there, i don't know how it is now. But Kioshi was like a second father to me and he tought me so much, unfortunetly i only got to second degree brown belt and i had to quite because i broke my leg badly and was no longer able to participate. There was a lot of hands on knowledge and mental knowledge. Not a lot of people agree with his way of teaching and that's there problem, personally i leanrede well from it. And as for the problems with Cassanova, that is there business and i don't think you need to judge kioshi becuase of his sons choices. This place is legit and i just wanted to let you guys know what was really going on. Thank you. peace

I'd love to stop by and give a more informed opinion, but I got the impression that the school doesn't exist any more. Do you have current contact info or an address for the school?

Thanks.

**DarkPhoenix** · Posted On: 11/18/2009 5:26am

Where is there a Karate Hall of Fame on Long Island? I have lived on LI most of my life and trained most of my life as well, and there is nothing that I know of resembling what you say.

**beccaxoxo121** · Posted On: 11/19/2009 11:55am

unfortunetly no...i lost contact with him after i left the dojo. however, my father helps him a lot with renovations and all that kind of stuff.you can try contacting his house phone: 508-477-0968..and as for the karate hall of fame in long island, it was only heald in long island...it isn't acaully located there. oh and i just remembered one more thing that may be helpful, "deadly dojo" was just the name of the dojo, the school was "the budokon school of martial arts" i don't know if that will help you all but there! if you have any other questions you can ask me and i'll be happy to answer. you could also try the old nummber for the dojo, but i'm not sure if it works: 508-539-2007

**MattB** · Posted On: 11/22/2009 12:36am

Originally Posted by beccaxoxo121

unfortunetly no...i lost contact with him after i left the dojo. however, my father helps him a lot with renovations and all that kind of stuff.you can try contacting his house phone: 508-477-0968..and as for the karate hall of fame in long island, it was only heald in long island...it isn't acaully located there. oh and i just remembered one more thing that may be helpful, "deadly dojo" was just the name of the dojo, the school was "the budokon school of martial arts" i don't know if that will help you all but there! if you have any other questions you can ask me and i'll be happy to answer. you could also try the old nummber for the dojo, but i'm not sure if it works: 508-539-2007

Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I feel that since I'm fairly close (geographically) it's only fair to try to stop in to give an authentic evaluation for the purposes of the thread.

**cyrijl** · Posted On: 11/23/2009 10:30am

I'm pretty sure they are no longer there

**thingone** · Posted On: 6/12/2010 2:34pm

Over the years I have observed some posts and comments about The Deadly Dojo and Lord Utmost. While almost all dojos have felt a finacial impact since 2007 as did this one. Lord Utmost is true to the teachings of his art, teaching students outside in a grassy area to some might have seemed an act of despiration, his students thought it an honor to get to train "old school". Think about the. Roots of most art styles, your forefathers didn't start on a gym mat did they? The first lesson he teaches his students, do not judge another school until you experience it in person first hand. Also if the school isn't for you for whatever the reason, don't bad mouth it just move on! While he my not be a Master of all things in life as he is human just like everyone else, he is a Master of the Art he teaches. While I could go on and on about the students he has helped in and out of the dojo. I can tell you that he delivers great Martial Artist, providing that's what the student wants and asserts, and dedicates applying the skills he teaches them. At age 38 I began the study of Goju at his dojo by age 39 I was competing at world cup level in my age and belt level, not just competing, but winning! He has produced a number of champions over the years. I was lucky enough and honored to be one of them! He is a good hearted person, and had a close nit family dojo!

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 6/12/2010 3:08pm

Originally Posted by thingone

Over the years I have observed some posts and comments about The Deadly Dojo and Lord Utmost. While almost all dojos have felt a finacial impact since 2007 as did this one. Lord Utmost is true to the teachings of his art, teaching students outside in a grassy area to some might have seemed an act of despiration, his students thought it an honor to get to train "old school". Think about the. Roots of most art styles, your forefathers didn't start on a gym mat did they? The first lesson he teaches his students, do not judge another school until you experience it in person first hand. Also if the school isn't for you for whatever the reason, don't bad mouth it just move on! While he my not be a Master of all things in life as he is human just like everyone else, he is a Master of the Art he teaches. While I could go on and on about the students he has helped in and out of the dojo. I can tell you that he delivers great Martial Artist, providing that's what the student wants and asserts, and dedicates applying the skills he teaches them. At age 38 I began the study of Goju at his dojo by age 39 I was competing at world cup level in my age and belt level, not just competing, but winning! He has produced a number of champions over the years. I was lucky enough and honored to be one of them! He is a good hearted person, and had a close nit family dojo!

None of this means anything? World Cup level? In your belt level? Yes, that's a great accomplishment for you but, it doesn't add anything to the thread but cheer leading.

**thingone** · Posted On: 6/12/2010 3:49pm

David, I trained directly under Lord Utmost. I started in 2005. I was on the US Martial Arts Team 2006. Competed in the World Cup Held in Hawaii that year. I came home with a Championship Belt, and alot of wonderful memories and met wonderful people! I believe he had 5 students that Competed in that World Cup. In 2007 I was inducted into The US Martial Arts Hall of Fame as Female Competitor of The Year in my division. Due to a death, and another of my family members falling ill I have yet to make it back to class since 2008.

For the dojo brother whom said Matt was Handed his black belt, all I can say is shame on you! Matt studied hard over the years and I admired his kata technique and dedication. He spent a min of three hours a day studying what he learned from beginging to end! You know the proper way training went. Don't blame anyone but yourself for your own failure!
I honestly figured that people were over bashing of Lord Utmost!

David I will try and contact kyoshi and direct him to your post. Thank you. :toothy10: