jkd vs bjkn match!

**kusa** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 5:53am

just found this,
http://www.e-budo.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=81ba42ec2507d67d006dbda0528a0b14& amp;threadid=20451

seems like a jkd school took on a bujinkan dojo in freindly sparring, both schools did well, no giving out of medals and trophies, no major egos involved, much learnt all round, an example to follow or do trophys really matter that much?? opinions??

**MrMcFu** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 6:01am

That's what it should be about. Putting your skills on the line in. I need to ask my Shooto instructor about putting on something like this today.

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**deus ex machina** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 6:05am

MrMcFu, that's a good idea. The Inosanto Academy puts on Shooto fight nights every month or every other month or so.

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danny

"That baby better watch his mouth. I rape kids like him as part of my warm-up for raping teenagers, grown men, and eventually charging rhinos." - Boyd

**MrMcFu** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 6:15am

I leave for class in about an hour, after which I will (attempt to) lift weights. I will fill everyone in at about about 17:00 +1 GMT.

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**Blad3** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 6:18am

These bujinkan students seem to know their **** - that or all there students do a lot of cross training. one of them mentions a V arm lock - staright from Judo/BJJ undoubtably - doesn't matter where he learnt it.

See that one guy got his arm broken? <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> Feel sorry for him, but it happens.

"Wrestling is the Martial Art of America";
"If you don't know how to wrestle you don't know how to fight, that's the prerequisite to fighting" David Tank Abbott

**Blad3** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 6:23am

I doubt this was anything to do with skill *if* Bujinkan is a true traditional martial art - but I don't know anything about it (is it similar to JKD i.e. is it MMA?).

it seems to be in the Ninjitsu section, so I'm assuming it ninjitsu ;). MANY "ninjitsu" style aren't anything to do with tradintional ninjitsu i.e. it's the teacher's/master's own eclectic art, which it really just a type of MMA/JKD. Not true Ninjitsu - and a godo thing that is too.

"Wrestling is the Martial Art of America";
"If you don't know how to wrestle you don't know how to fight, that's the prerequisite to fighting" David Tank Abbott

Edited by - Blade Windu on July 20 2003 06:25:59

**kusa** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 6:32am

bujnikan trainin encompasases all ranges due to the fact all real trad arts do cover all ranges, its just shitty budo styles that tend to spealize, takamatsu sensei was one of the most highly respected bujutsu instructors in japan during his life, and held soke position in 9 bujutsu/ninpo schools as well as holding shodan menkyo in many many other. the bjkn dojo that hosted the matches also cross trains in todays main styles, bjj and muey. its a know thy enemy and take there strength thing...

**MrMcFu** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 12:02pm

Crap. He wasn't there. Some of the guys just worked out by ourselves. I will have to ask him Monday . . .

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**kusa** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 12:35pm

by the way blade judo took the v arm lock from jujutsu not the other way around, the bujinkan is one of 3 goverining bodies for takamatsu den arts, the linage of some of these were ninja based, other samurai, it is not jkd or mma in the sense you now it.
since you live in londen check out the bujinkan class near you, peter king is suposed to be an awsome guy! or attend the Genbukan tai kai in october in brighton, tanamura sensei is sumat to be seen and is very open to questions.
not everything is good is modern!

**Kensai** · Posted On: 7/20/2003 5:06pm

That was a great read, something I'd like to do at some point.

Before my Aikido/Judo days when I did full contact Shotokan and I played with some Ninpo guys. Some had some very sharp skills. I was not particually amazing at Shotokan, but they'd only been training in Ninpo a similar amount of time, I was owned at that sorta grappling standing range.