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  1. Ronin.74 is online now

    霍氏八极拳徒弟

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    It is my understanding that the famous samurai of yore were famous and well respected because they actually survived large scale confrontations on the battlefield. I am sure there have been great swordsman that died in battle because they were shot with an arrow, or some guy on his side freaked out and started swinging wildly and accidentally killed his comrade (friendly fire FTW?). It's possible that the warriors that died in battle were actually better swordsman than some of those that lived, it's just that they were unlucky.
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    I'd get a gun, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by odacon
    Yeah but can that kind of intution be taught?
    Strategy and tactics?

    Yes, they can be taught.

    Von Clauswitz, Sun Tzu, espionage, tradecraft...
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     Style: Muay Thai, Judo, BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by odacon
    I'd contend that back in the day the guys that had to fight on a regular basis in life or death scenarios trained a lot closer to an MMA gym i.e. worked on all ranges of fighting, hard physical training, aliveness etc. than your local Bujinkan dojo.
    I agree with you on all poinst except classically most of your training time was done was weapons training and according to almost all Koryu, even classically it was done by 2-man kata, as they trained with shinken (live blades). Now you would get your aliveness from actual battle. No jujutsu was probably simialr to today, but because it was not the main focus of training, I think that your average blackbelt in judo would mop the floor with them, that is until one of the samura pulled his kogai or kotsuka and stabed him. The Bushido did not exist during Sengoku. And if your read historical or mythical accounds, Samurai cheated as far back as the Kojiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kojiki).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108
    Strategy and tactics?

    Yes, they can be taught.

    Von Clauswitz, Sun Tzu, espionage, tradecraft...
    You didn't even mention Zhuge Liang. BTW did you get 5 yet?
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    Nope.

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    Nope.

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    I want Dynasty Warriors 5 for PS2 and the Voltron DVD box set.

    Don't get it without the extreme legends addon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odacon
    Yeah but can that kind of intution be taught?
    The principles can be taught, but to get it as part of your natural being relies on the person. You can teach 101 ways to be street smart, but it doesnt help if the person isnt able to make links between a situation and the knowldge. look at those bad drivers, they got taught the strategies for effective safe driving, but cant make it a reality. Some peeps just cant get the big picture into their heads, no matter how effective the training.

    Too many rely on skill, and the knife at the gun fight.

    Experience evolves that intuition.
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    I never ment this to be a MMa thread. If you read the first post I said swordless samurai.

    In the case of the swrord, would a bujinkan, kendo, arma, or one of the kali arts fair better?
    When You absolutely have to hide a body...try Alaska.
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