Thread: Red dragon mcdojo or no?
1/21/2011 12:53pm, #21
What the hell is the problem this year? Not even a month in and every martial artist is whining about internet respect. How about you have respect for a forum and read the rules? Oh that's right respect is only a one way street for some of you angry posters.
Thanks though, your response echoes Omega's point about some of the attitudes a few of you carry.
1/21/2011 1:01pm, #22
I guess the guy doesn't understand the segue between *tongue and cheek rant and the "Seriously just start a new thread".
1/21/2011 1:17pm, #23
Yeah, that's probably the issue.
Pine-Wave: Hey respect me and quit hiding behind a keyboard. Even though that is what I'm doing.
It is the escalation and condescension that irritate me.
1/22/2011 4:07pm, #24
- Join Date
- Jan 2011
- Los Angeles
- Shotokan & Kobudo
I was impressed by the instructor and the atmosphere at first, but further examination showed overly high rates, tons of pre-pubescent black belts, a hokey philosophy, overemphasis on American patriotism, and an emphasis on "life skills training" for the kids. http://www.reddragonglendora.com/
The instructor told me about teaching the children about "being loud" as the best defense against being put "in the van and taken across the border into Mexico." The more I thought about these things, the more they nagged at me.
I already know that most of the users here prefer wrestling to karate, that's not the issue. I want serious karate training to expand my techniques, not Judo with needless gimmicks thrown in to keep youngsters in the school who wouldn't enjoy hitting the mat. Yeah, we get it, your dad was awesome and you played Scorpion in Mortal Kombat. I'm not interested in acting or BS.
1/22/2011 8:36pm, #25
- Join Date
- Nov 2007
- Tracy Kenpo
I know this is a necro, but I just parused the Red Dragon site and it is priceless. I didn't think in the wiki age that wacky **** like this was still said.
"In keeping with yankee ingenuity and American tradition he took the best 7 major martial arts forms and combined them into one new powerful and effective style which is known as the Red Dragon style of martial arts."
"What Style of Martial Arts is Red Dragon Karate?
The American form style of karate taught in each Red Dragon Studio is a combination of the seven major oriental styles of martial arts founded by Shi-han Sensei Louis D. Casamassa. It is a very fast and powerful martial arts form that requires each studentís desire, effort and getting commitment to excel. The martial arts style included in American Karate include:
- Japanese (Judo, Aikido, Shotokan)
- Chinese (Kung Fu, Wing Chung, Kun Tao, Kenpo)
- Korean (Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Moddykwan)
- Okinawan (Go Ju Ryu, Isshin Ryu)
- Indonesian (Javanese Silat, Penjack Silat)
- Filipino (Kali Escrima, Thai Kickboxing)
- Tibetan (The Monks, forms, animal styles)
Red Dragon Karateís base style is Judo."
And they wonder why it is hard to take 'em seriously....
2/27/2012 11:13pm, #26
- Join Date
- Feb 2012
Most of the current schools are McDojos; not all. There are still some respectable schools among the Red Dragon franchise. The studios in Diamond Bar, Phillips Ranch, and Azuza are pretty good and I speak from personal experience when competing against their students at national and local tournaments. I remember when I was sparring at a tournament against a Red Dragon student (not sure which school it was), but I knocked him down on his back after punching him, not hard by the way. And the parent of the kid started complaining to the referee and center judge about how the sensei taught his students that sparring was similar to tag and that I should be penalized for hitting him hard.
Try to avoid these schools, except the ones mentioned above, if you're looking for a school to learn some actual defense and fighting prowess.
2/28/2012 1:42am, #27
- Join Date
- Feb 2010
- Inland Empire, California
- Limalama, Judo & BJJ
Since we are here in MABS I thought I'd take a sec to post Louis Casamassa's list of "achievements" : http://www.reddragonkarate.com/about/
A U.S. Marine decorated in the service to his country 1958-1964
Began studying Judo in Japan in 1958.
Trained at the Kodokan in Japan 1958-1961. His instructor was Tochiko Yogami.
Risei Kano, son of Dr. Jigaro Kano, promoted Shi-Han Sensei to black belt in Judo. He was one of the first ten Americans ever to be promoted on December 8, 1960-he received his 1st Degree Black Belt in Judo at the Kodokan in Japan .
Promoted by Mas Nagano to 1st degree black belt in Yokosuka, Japan 1961
Opened the first full time Red Dragon Karate in Bethlehem , Pennsylvania in 1966.
Voted policeman rookie of the year of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania Police Force. 1967
Voted policeman of the year 1968
Opened the first Red Dragon Karate in Covina , California in 1972
Created certifying organization American Karate Kung-Fu Federation (A.K.K.F.) to promote certification and professionalism in Martial Arts. 1968
Listed in the Who’s Who of Karate 1974
Nationally accredited advocate dedicated to improving the spiritual/mental/physical aspects of young martial artists. 1977
Wrote self-defense book for women, Rapist Beware 1982.
Received California State Senate/Assembly resolutions for Rapist Beware program.
Received personal/professional commendations from:
Governor Pete Wilson, L.A. Major Tom Bradley, U.S. Congressman David Drier, L.A. County supervisors, & San Bernadino County.
Received 10th Degree Black Belt in 1986.
Received Instructor’s Award from Yamashita International Golden Masters 1993
Recognized by U.S. Congress for Women’s Self Defense program 1993
Grand Masters Hall of Fame 1996
Entered into Master and Founders Hall of Fame 1997
Co-Created A.I.D., America in Defense Safety Program in 2001, with Bob Wall and Chuck Norris
Kentucky Blue Grass Hall of Fame 2002
Has promoted over 1,500 members to Black Belt, along with promoting Grand Masters who hold ranks of 7th, 8th and 9th degree black belts.
Promoted over 200 National and International karate tournaments.
Is this guy the bullshido prototype or what?
2/28/2012 2:13am, #28
2/28/2012 8:24am, #29
- Join Date
- Nov 2011
As far as being in the Kentucky Bluegrass Hall of Fame, he is not (under this name). However to claim such a badass thing, I am calling him legit.
2/28/2012 10:25am, #30