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    how damaging is an eye gouge?

    Just how damaging is an eye gouge? Is it really t3h d3eadly? If it succeeds, does it do any permanent damage to the eye?

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    Wrong forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKDer
    Just how damaging is an eye gouge? Is it really t3h d3eadly? If it succeeds, does it do any permanent damage to the eye?
    1. Depends how it's done.
    2. I seriously doubt it.
    3. Well...yes - IF IT SUCCEEDS.

    That's the thing - many shitty martial artists justify their shitty training by going on about eye gouges and biting.

    If eye gouges were the answer to self-defense scenarios then nobody would be training anything.
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    I see eye gouges and pokes as being fakes rather than than actual strikes. It's almost impossible to execute a successful gouge, because the instinct to protect the eyes is so strong. But that's exactly what makes it a good fake: They'll be so busy protecting their eyes that they probably won't see the follow-up blows coming.

    I've heard stories about guys who have knocked their own heads against walls trying to avoid eye pokes, ending the fight without the victor landing a single blow. I can't vouch for the authenticity of said stories, but it seems plausible.

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    Eye gouge yourself. Let us know how it turns out.


    Make sure to get video.

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    ****...

    A number of years ago, I was talking to Bill Wallace about any "Real" Fights. He said the only "real" fight he had been in was at an amusment park in Indiana and he won it with one Eye poke...Not a round kick to the head. Some super foot.
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    I ask because I'm watching this Rickson Gracie documentary and some japanese dude got eye gouged (i think accidentally im not too sure) by some savate fighter. His eye looks pretty fucked up so I'm wondering if eye gouges are really deadly and if they cause permanent damage.

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    Didn't the japanese dude pull of the win anyway?

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    yeah he did but that doesnt change my question. his eye looked fucked up so i want to know whether or not most eye gouges cause serious injury

    i was under the assumption no one's ever gotten seriously injured in a vale tudo/mma fight

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    The "japanese dude" is Yuki Nakai, the proud owner of probably the biggest set of brass cojhones in all of martial arts.

    Gerard Gordeau(the savate fighter) repeatedly eye gouged him on purpose without the referee noticing despite being 50+ pounds heavier than Nakai, who was a featherweight shooto grappler(I think 135 lbs - he was TINY!), that's how afraid of Nakai's ground game he was.

    If Nakai had been a striker, these gouges would probably have cost him the fight, but the cool thing about grappling is that you don't really need to see clearly to do it if you are good, you can still get the tap by feel only.

    And yes, Nakai is blind in one eye today. He should have torn Gordeau's foot right out of the socket with that heel hook if you ask me, Gordeau is notorious for using "deadly street tricks" if he hits the ground. He also bit Royce Gracie's ear in their UFC 1 match. Take note that he lost both fights anyways.

    That Nakai went on to win another fights virtually blind in both eyes, and gave Rickson Gracie his all in one night stands IMO to this day as the greatest display of Bushido valour in martial arts history. Today Nakai is one of the few japanese BJJ black belts, and a hell of a grappler despite his loss of eyesight.

    A true legend, and to me the real star of Choke. Pity they didnīt follow him around instead of Kimura.

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