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  1. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Never mind.

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    Posted On:
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    NAPMA isnt a bad idea.

    It started out as a professional guidline on how to run and operate a school from a business perspective. They lay out a format for running a school that even a monkey could follow.

    What happens next is that you get incompetant people that have never taken time to learn teaching theory running schools using this method and pumping out train wreck after train wreck of terrible students while charging them an arm and a leg for nothing and giving them false confidence.

    If a serious competant person wanted to open a school and not worry too much about the business end than NAPMA is a good thing for them.
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


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    Posted On:
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    vampires are jewish? or, uh, are leeches? I don't know Shiva will take care of all of you.

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  4. Freddy is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Jews for Christ???

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    Posted On:
    7/18/2003 2:59pm

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    I read a lot of the MA Industry magazines as well I have read How to Own and Operate a Martial Art School by John Graden. Let me just say that, I believe that the concept of ideas that they present are very good. Like anything else in life if you don't like the idea or if doesn't follow your certain philosophy of training then by all means don't use it. Jamoke is right in that most of them are pretty much the same thing delivered in a different package.

    For those who don't like NAPMA or MAIA or any other of the sort are you a school owner or just a student who bitches about the ideas?

    For the record I have no affiliation to any of these groups however, I am planning on opening a school next year and the type of information that is provided has been very helpful in my planning of expenses and other pitfalls of school ownership.

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    So the main point behind martial arts is to make money... I wouldn't know, just asking...
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    Posted On:
    7/18/2003 3:11pm

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    Depends, if you want to make a living in teaching or if you just teach as a hobby. I personally want to teach for a living. If I was filthy rich I would do it for free. However I'm just filthy. <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>With that in mind I need to put a plan together that would allow me to teach good martial arts and make a good living doing it. NAPMA and MAIA help stimulate ideas. I don't have to take their idea verbatim but I can use that idea and adapt it into my marketing plan. Making good money doesn't have to mean sell out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost
    "Bullshido isn't just a place to hang out when you're browsing the net. We really are trying to accomplish something fucking extraordinary here that nobody's ever had the balls to do before."
    Quote Originally Posted by D.Murray
    "Which is better, to learn the truth, or to enjoy the illusion of being right when you are not?"
    Quote Originally Posted by hangooknamja88 View Post
    My definition of Ki is our energy. it's rather hard to explain it in words. It's not some mystical type of energy like white people...


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    Posted On:
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    I would like to know from Magoo if he's had a specific bad experience with Napma, something we could specifically discuss. My only problem with Napma doctrine is previously on the David Cook thread Jeremy told us (if my memory is correct) that part of the plan is to sell 'black belt' and 'master' programs which I view as kinda misleading since it appears to promise a particular result based on payment rather than skill or commitment. I'm sure that better terms could be chosen. I also don't know if Napma advocates long term contracts. I oppose such creatures unless their is a liquidated damages clause i.e. they can be broken by the student but depending when this happens their refund is prorated. Anyway what are the materials like Jeremy?
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    Posted On:
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    Come on what about Egyption Jewjitsu? That's been proven as an effective style over and over.
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    Posted On:
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    I think we're still affiliated with NAPMA, the owner uses it mostly for basic billing. Even then he doesn't use too many of the options they have. (warning obvious stmt coming)Running a martial arts school is a business and if there's no profit it will close. The schools does'nt sell belts and have even tightened up the requirements for rank some more. No contracts just direct withdrawl.
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