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  1. GoldenJonas is offline

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     Style: BJJ

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    Position, position, position....

    Joined MMAlibrary a while back and check in every now and then (only after my "search function n00b fu" fails here) for new techniques, training tips, etc...an found this vid of Christian Graugart (BJJ Blue), the site Admin.

    We often talk about or referrence the BJJ/Gracie mantra of position then submission, position then submission...the following vid is a very good example, IMHO, of that mantra being followed to the tee (and its not a vid of some BJJ superhero like Jacarre). Graugart pulls guard and immediatlety establishes positional dominance which he maintains right until the white belt puts a bow on his arm for him.

    http://www.openmat.dk/video/csa/BOC3.wmv
  2. Ryno is offline

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     Style: FMA, Jujutsu/Judo/SAMBO

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    Excellent positional work. I was actually surprised at how patient he was. He had a few opportunities for submission, but just maintained position until he was sure he could snatch one without missing.
  3. PoleFighter is offline

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     Style: Sandbagged BJJ white belt

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    Eh. I should learn to be so patient.
    I pointed at him [the panhandler], bringing my rear hand up in a subtle approximation of the double Wu Sau guard that is the default hand position in Wing Chun Kung Fu.

    "Step away," I hissed.
    -Phil Elmore
  4. Ryno is offline

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     Style: FMA, Jujutsu/Judo/SAMBO

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I've got the same problem. "Oh, there's an arm! I can arm bar him!" whiff "Damn."

    So impatient... But learning.
  5. RedGonzo is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/21/2006 8:39pm


     Style: BJJ

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    I love this game.
  6. RoninPimp is offline
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Rex Kwon Do

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    textbook...
  7. Red Elvis is offline
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Spetsnaz Shovel-Fu

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    I look at that slightly different. Looks to me like point hunting.
    Pass guard - 2 points
    Side Control
    Mount - 4 points.
    Back to side control.
    Knee on belly - 2 points.
    Back to side control then to north/south
    etc. etc.

    Don't think he was looking for a sub until he took it to be honest. He could have had him from the guard early on as he was clearly better than the other guy. Good stratagy though if that's your gig. Build a good point base that way if you miss a sub and end up in a bad spot you are still ahead.

    Not diggen' the pull to guard either but that's just me. Point hunting is the reason I got tired of most bjj places.
    Last edited by Red Elvis; 8/21/2006 9:03pm at .
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    To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;
    Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without spilling your Guinness.
    Sun "Fu Man JhooJits" Tzu, the Art of War & Guinness
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    Posted On:
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    Solid positional basics will usually trump submission freaks when strikes are added.


    In this case the skill disparity was so high that the blue belt could have done anything at any time. That does not mean his strategy was bad. Leave no holes. Make no mistakes. Because if you do it is possible that your opponent, even if he is inferior, might catch you with a gimmicky submission.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Rex Kwon Do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrkoon9
    Solid positional basics will usually trump submission freaks when strikes are added.


    In this case the skill disparity was so high that the blue belt could have done anything at any time. That does not mean his strategy was bad. Leave no holes. Make no mistakes. Because if you do it is possible that your opponent, even if he is inferior, might catch you with a gimmicky submission.
    -I agree 100%. That's good solid BJJ 101 imo.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: In Transition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryno
    I've got the same problem. "Oh, there's an arm! I can arm bar him!" whiff "Damn."

    So impatient... But learning.
    Same. "Ok, so he's bigger than me. He's stacking me. I think he's about to stand up and pass my guard... ARMBAR TIME!!!"
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