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  1. Matt Bernius is offline

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    How to check/verify military records

    In various investigations, it becomes necessary to verify military service (or more specifically, what someone's role was in the military).

    I know about the Standard Form SF-180 --
    http://www.archives.gov/veterans/mil...-form-180.html

    What are other steps to take? Key questions to ask? And forms to fill out?

    - Matt
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    Try a local military museum if you have one. I know a local curator, and I am assuming they are all ex officers so they should have reasonable access to records. Funny, since many users here say they are military, I thought you would of gotten more replies.

    I think I know how you feel too. We have a local ex military personnel hospital with quite a few vietnam vets who can recount famous battles but don't appear on any official lists. Amazing how they keep getting left off, year after year.
    Last edited by vladoshi; 9/15/2006 11:56am at .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Bernius
    In various investigations, it becomes necessary to verify military service (or more specifically, what someone's role was in the military).

    I know about the Standard Form SF-180 --
    http://www.archives.gov/veterans/mil...-form-180.html

    What are other steps to take? Key questions to ask? And forms to fill out?

    - Matt
    You already have your answer, why would you need anything else?
  4. Sam Browning is online now

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    http://web.archive.org/web/200502061...time/phony.asp

    Will give you a list of things to specifically ask for under the freedom of information act.
  5. ar549 is offline
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    Banned for failing to live up to the standards he expected of others and wasting more time on calling out forum military members' credentials than he spent in his own military career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Browning
    http://web.archive.org/web/200502061...time/phony.asp

    Will give you a list of things to specifically ask for under the freedom of information act.
    Samuel, Its funny that you link to this page which clearly list POW Network as experts and the go to guys for phonie veterans yet when Marc Denny refered to them as a pack of yapping dogs and he basicaly calls them liars it is overlooked.

    As far as me, The only claim I have made is that I'm a Military Veteran, If you know any American in Bangkok I would be happy to meet them at Lumpini and confirm this status. I figure this will be cleared up by the end of January. Bryan Lee aka AR549

    Marc Denny Said



    When I was informed about the POWnetworks site posting something I had
    written on Eskrima Digest about MG I went and read what they had to
    say. Naturally, I was quite concerned. Over time that I knew him, the
    timeline of MG's stories had become more incredible, yet I found the
    website to be quite disreputable and to be lacking in integrity.


    I am unfamiliar with the current status of the site, but at the time it
    consisted nearly entirely of anonymous accusations and hearsay
    ("Someone told me he said"). They specifically asked for accusations. They
    specifically said that anonymous was OK. They specifically said that
    hearsay was OK. ("Tell us what you have heard someone say and you don't
    need to give his name or yours" :-o :roll: :x ).

    This is something I profoundly disrespect. If you are going to bring a
    man down, be man enough to put your name to it.

    Question: What do you do when a friend/teacher is accused anonymously?

    Question: What do you do when a friend/teacher is in trouble?

    Question: What do you do when a friend/teacher is down?

    Part of my idea you don't abandon friendship when an anonymous pack of
    dogs is yapping.
    You look for people who are man enough to put their
    names to what they say before dignifying it with credibility.

    So, I took the time to answer them. If you read what I actually say
    (and apparently some of the posters on this thread actually did-- thank
    you) I spoke to what I personally knew and nothing else. I offered it
    simply as something for them to add to their search for truth.

    In the subsequent back and forth correspondence between the people
    running the website and me I feel they acted with less than full integrity



    After cleaning up my barf, I moved on and lacking respect for them,

    have since then have had nothing further to do with them.


    Check out the POW and veterans networks.
    One of the most effective organizations dedicated toward unmasking phony POws and military heroes is the nonprofit POW Network. You can contact the POW Network by going to their website at www.pownetwork.org or calling (660) 928-3304.

    The POW Network contains a large archive of phony POWs, some of whom have attempted to dupe reporters, veterans groups or individuals in more than one location.

    The POW Network has assembled a number of official rosters which will be useful in determining the veracity of the veteran's claim, including:
    • The PMSEA Roster of all Vietnam-era POWs
    • Roster of all Medal of Honor recipients and citations
    • Roster of all living Medal of Honor recipients
    • Legion of Valor website (Membership limited to recipients of the Medal of Honor, Distinguished Service Cross, Navy Cross, and Air Force Cross)
    • CyberSEALS: Rosters of unmasked phony SEALS.
    In addition, the POW Network has hyperlinks to a number of military alumni organizations that monitor false claimants, including the Army Ranger Association, Naval Special Warfare Command (SEALs), USS Pueblo incident and more.
  6. Sam Browning is online now

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    We don't have anyone in Thailand, but if you pm me your birthdate, the dates of your service, and the dates you were in I'll request your record through the FOIA. It will take about ten weeks.

    As far as Denny goes, I disagree with him on this issue.
  7. ar549 is offline
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    Banned for failing to live up to the standards he expected of others and wasting more time on calling out forum military members' credentials than he spent in his own military career.

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Browning
    We don't have anyone in Thailand, but if you pm me your birthdate, the dates of your service, and the dates you were in I'll request your record through the FOIA. It will take about ten weeks.

    As far as Denny goes, I disagree with him on this issue.

    Give it some time and I will verify my status. Im working on it now. Thanks
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar549

    Give it some time and I will verify my status. Im working on it now. Thanks
    :new_scram Does not compute?



  9. Rock Ape is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ar549

    Give it some time and I will verify my status. Im working on it now. Thanks
    Same old bullshit answer... He's verifying his OWN records ?
    I call you a fucking

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  10. HonkyTonkMan is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Right on Dave....same old story...Im working on it.....


    I like it how he said that if we had an American in Thailand he would meet them at the stadium.....I will bet he isnt meeting FD today.
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