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  1. tideliar is offline

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    7/17/2009 5:10pm


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    Hmmm...liver or jaw...

    :p

    But, yeah, at the way his arms cover his body and he's in constant motion. If you picture it as standing stiff and covering up, well, you're gonna get thumped aren't you...
  2. JP is offline
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    It's all about the clinch. The clinch, I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    Oh look here's Rodney King, who invented it,
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    Rodney King did not invent that guard.

    It's been around pugilism for a long ass time.

    That being said, I think it's a great guard for self-defense or MMA and also a really good tool for beginners looking for easy ways to remember to keep their hands up.
    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible, without surrender,
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even to the dull and ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.
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    7/18/2009 12:14am


     Style: Jiu-jitsu & HEMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP View Post
    a really good tool for beginners looking for easy ways to remember to keep their hands up.
    As someone who sucks at boxing: this right here is an important point.
  4. Hesperus is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfcritical View Post
    His elbows were not in front of his face, and he had his knuckles on his forehead, as opposed to palms on the top.
    This. All over the place.

    Also, comparing a punch-specific defense to the whole of peek-a-boo is goofy.

    EDIT: You know what this thread needs?

    Miguel Torres.
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    7/19/2009 2:15am


     Style: MT, Judo & BJJ

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    ^ Woah. Evasive as all hell. If Frank Mir hadn't ridden his nuts like a $5 whore during that entire fight, I would really like him.

    But his refusal to acknowledge anything Mizugaki did made me want to cheer for him instead.
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    It's all about the clinch. The clinch, I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBG-ape View Post
    As someone who sucks at boxing: this right here is an important point.
    And an ironic one coming from me. Trust me.
    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible, without surrender,
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even to the dull and ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.
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    Posted On:
    7/21/2009 8:13am


     Style: BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn
    Peek-a-boo tends to mean gloves on the chin, the hands are much lower down than in a Crazy Monkey-style cover where they're all the way on top of the head and the elbows are in front of your face.
    Can't speak for peekaboo, but in CM your hands are NOT on top of your head and your elbows are NOT in front of your face.

    Like so:
    YouTube - Part 1- CMD Sparring 101- Hunchback Stance
    YouTube - Part 2- CMD Sparring 101- Work Defense


    As for body shots:

    YouTube - Dispelling The Myth Of The Body Shot

    It can tend to be a little more open to body shots; especially when you're a n00b like me. But personally, I'd rather be hit in the body than the face; and since I don't train striking as much as grappling my main focus is to avoid being hit in the face while changing levels and / or crashing into the clinch.
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    The thing about getting hit in the body is that it WILL make you lower your guard, so saying "I'd rather be hit in the body than the face" doesn't really mean much.
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  9. Draven is offline
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    Posted On:
    7/23/2009 7:42am


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    Amir Khan recently fought Andri Kotelnik, who uses the peek a boo defence. Freddy Roach set up a strategy for Khan to pound him with body blows and follow it up with straight punches. Seemed to work fine, Peekaboo certainly has its weeknesses.
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    Posted On:
    7/23/2009 7:58am

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     Style: BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven View Post
    Amir Khan recently fought Andri Kotelnik, who uses the peek a boo defence. Freddy Roach set up a strategy for Khan to pound him with body blows and follow it up with straight punches. Seemed to work fine.
    That Kotelnik avoided taking any substantial damage against a guy with a big reach advantage and freakish hand-speed would seem to argue for the effectiveness of the guard rather than against it. He also got inside on Khan and landed shots quite a few times.
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