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    Quote Originally Posted by Knave
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    Urr..if the problem being described is what I think it is, the people with it would probably have no problem at all with those various poses and stretches, but still wouldn't be any more flexible in the way they are trying to get.
    Funny, I was JUST about to post that.

    My hips are stretched out fine. A high kick doesn't require you to stretch your hip, btw. It would be the groin area. The hip has no right to be in pain. Which means that something more sinister is afoot.

    I'll check the chiro then. I just need to get some recommendations in my area (I'll ask around).
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    Foolish mortal. I transcend all styles. I take what is useful and discard what is not. And high kicks are fucking sick.

    My TKD "background" has made me like kicks in general. So instead of suppressing that urge, I will just learn how to kick well. God knows I have no punching ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poop Loops
    Funny, I was JUST about to post that.

    My hips are stretched out fine. A high kick doesn't require you to stretch your hip, btw. It would be the groin area. The hip has no right to be in pain. Which means that something more sinister is afoot.

    I'll check the chiro then. I just need to get some recommendations in my area (I'll ask around).

    I'm telling you man, I have exactly the same problem you do. It's not an inner thigh/groin issue, it's the outer thigh/hip flexor. It almost feels like your hip socket doesn't want to move that direction. Dynamic stretching is the solution. Just try it and you'll see.
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    I did the dynamic stretches for a while, but they didn't seem to help. I'll try them again while looking for a chiro. Even if he fixes it, stretching is never bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poop Loops
    Even if he fixes it, stretching is never bad.

    Very true.

    It also never hurts to talk to a doctor either.

    Well, unless they are an Armenian claiming to be a doctor and selling homemade Viagra out of their trunk at a rest stop near Philly.
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    Greetings.

    Okay let me explain some random stuff and you tell me if I'm hitting pretty close to home.

    You can easily do alot of the stuff in bjj that supposedly requires flexibility (stuff like rubber guard antics and gogoplatas, etc), can get your legs behind your head or close to it, you can easily bring your knee very high up in front of you (like touching your shoulder with your knee while standing without needing to bend foward), and can maybe put your knees to the ground doing butterfly stretches or come close to it, yet when you try to do a side split you can hardly get your feet beyond shoulder width before feeling pain and wanting to readjust and/or bend foward some to alleviate it? Is any of that accurate?

    Because if so, I feel your pain, and I don't think a chiro would help. The area effected is sort of hard for me to explain, but if you put your hands on your hips with your thumbs up around your love handle area then move your hands down until your thumbs are at the height of the top of your ass crack, deep inside that region sort of behind your pelvic bone, is that where you feel it when you try to do a side split?

    That's how it is for me. What I've been doing to try to correct the problem is a combination of side split stretching and dynamic sideways leg lifts. Usually about an hour after getting up once I'm sort of warmed up a little, I do a side split until I feel it tighten up in there then I hold it for 20ish seconds, very slowly rotate my hips left and hold, right and hold, then very slowly I start bending foward and hold, then slowly raise back up and get out of the position. Then I do a set of 10ish leg lifts on each side, then do the split again, then the raises, then the split, then the raises. Usually when I get to the second split, the tightness in the deep back of the pelvic bone upper ass area is gone or nearly gone, and the side split actually stretches my other muscles instead. I do this routine 2 times a day (within a few hours around waking up and within a few before going to bed), sometimes more if I have the time. I've been doing this for about a month so far and am pleased with the results. I can do a side split much better and kick higher and I can do both without feeling like I have to bend over to alleviate the strain in that area, though it does feel like a chore to keep loose there compared to my other more natural flexibilities.

    My guess is that there are hip flexors of some sort back there and that people like me/us are unusually tight there but for whatever reason unusually flexible in other areas compared to alot of other people, so we have problems with things that seem to come more easily to them like high kicks and side splits.
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    That doesn't make any sense. Why would weak muscles prevent me from stretching?

    I'm guessing you're just griding your legs into your hips, somehow loosening them up, whereas for Alex it happened all at once.
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    Thanks for making this thread and having crappy hips, poop loops. it's helping mine out no end.
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