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  1. ojgsxr6 is offline

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    Where did the Roundkick come from?

    I was thinking about this thread recently, http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...ighlight=kicks, and specifically this post:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...4&postcount=79

    So if the roundkick was only added relatively recently to Japanese/Okinowan Martial Arts, where did it come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    where did it come from?
    From the dawn of mankind..

    .... what, did you think the act of kicking someone in that motion is relatively new?
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    What TYPE of round kick are you talking about? Thai style, TKD/light contact karate style, kyokushin style?
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    From the Second link I posted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    Okinawan and Japanese systems added the roundhouse kick in the 50's and 60's, you will find no round house kicks in Okinawan and Japanese Kata's.
    The roundhouse kick that's found in the post 50's karate?
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    Anyone?
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    Where did the Roundkick come from?

    from the leg? :tongue3:
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    Shotokan, mostly for regulated sparring and the cool-factor. There are techniques that look like roundkicks found in several traditional martial arts, but they usually had different applications before the roundkick era. Most martial artists at the time wore shoes and favored a swift kick to the nuts, the roundkick was thought too slow for safe and practical execution. They have been proven wrong through assbeatings. I could say the same about shoots to the legs; since the techniques deemed unpractical and unsafe weren't accounted for in martial training before they became popular, the old styles were incomplete and weak.

    Now they know that they have to kick people in the nuts alot faster to stop a roundhouse, and train quite a bit of grappling regularly in order not to get raped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherChris
    Shotokan, mostly for regulated sparring and the cool-factor.
    No, shotokan nicked it from CMA. As far as I understand it, Funakoshi never did roundhouse kicks. I think it was Yoshitaka, his son, that introduced them as he was more athletic than his dad. Could be wrong though, as I seem to recall that they may have been an even later addition than that (Nakayama, maybe).

    There are no roundhouse kicks in the shotokan kata, which suggests that they're not native to the style.
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