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  1. Happycrow is offline

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    Non-Poll: Chambered kicks, form or process?

    For those of you who use chambered kicks (because I hear that MT doesn't, correct me if I'm wrong), is the chamber considered an essential part of correct form in your art, or is it something that must be learned, but is then expected to be disregarded in favor of speed, power, etcetera, once one has the basic idea down?

    And, of course, sparring changes that, so, in a vacuum, assume constant gravity, etc etc.

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    There's nothing wrong with a chamber, as long as you know what it's for and how it works.
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    I throw front and round kicks both with and without the chamber. It just depends on what I want to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happycrow
    is it something that must be learned, but is then expected to be disregarded in favor of speed, power, etcetera, once one has the basic idea down?
    Why would you learn something you'll have to unlearn later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn
    Why would you learn something you'll have to unlearn later?
    You only have to unlearn it if you learned it half-assed in the first place. TKD is big on chambers, for instance. Now, when you are just starting out, you are taught that you chamber, then you kick. You spend alot of time doing concentration kicks (one hand supported on a wall, leg in chamber, kicking out and returning to chamber.) If your instructors suck or you do things half-assed, that is as far as it goes.

    If you keep going with it, you look at the chamber as a transition point. That the kick is not A-B-C (ready, chamber, kick) but rather A-B (ready, kick) with the chamber being a point that your leg has passed through in throwing the kick. It builds form, and form can contribute to power.
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    The chamber isn't a static position; your leg moves through a chamber on the way to the target.
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    Some kicks must be cambered to get them room to fire. Otherwise you get jammed.
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    I was taught to chamber most kicks but it isnt a 1,2,3 type kick the chamber is fluid with the kick to generate momentum and power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim
    Some kicks must be cambered to get them room to fire. Otherwise you get jammed.
    I usualy will only chamber high-ish front kicks , but that is becouse I use them inside punching range to create space . If I didnt chamber it , it would end up being a soccer punt to the groin and while that is fun it doesn't sit well with sparring partners .
    :deadhorse

    So I guess like everyone else as stated ... it depends on your goal and which technique you are using and the chamber is just a position your leg travels through on the way to the target .


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    I mix (or, sadly, mixed) it up... when I was fighting, I noticed guys who threw a good axe kick scored hits (not points) pretty much every time. I watched one guy axe-kick his way through an entire tournament, with no-one able to answer the kick.
    I put this down to no chamber, and as we were all "traditional" arts, we were expecting the kick to be chambered.
    I'm too short to utilise an axe kick (on anything taller than an umpa lumpa), so I had two round kicks, chambered and non-chambered... the non-chambered scored about twice as many hits as the traditional round kick.
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