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    shoulder injury - weight maintenance

    my dear girlfriend is typing this for me because today during sparring i dislocated my left shoulder in what my coach has called 'a freak dislocation'.
    it stayed out of its socket for about an hour (due to the slow rate of the local health care system) and eventually they had to knock me out to manipulate it back into place. i was due to fight in a few weeks but now of course it will be postponed for who knows how long...
    can anybody give me any tips for weight maintenance and prevention of musuclar deterioration while im injured??
    thanks:fist:
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    That's a tough break.

    I do a lot of work with professional rugby league teams and dislocations are pretty common. Unfortunately, the evidence is that once you've dislocated it, the chances of it re-occurring are pretty much 100% if you return to collision sport. That's because the dislocation tears the shoulder capsule and destabilises the joint. Bottom line, if you dislocate and you're a footy player, you'll need a reconstruction at some stage (not necessarily immediately though).

    Now, I'm not sure what kind of fighting you're doing so it's hard to say whether the same rule applies. I'd strongly reccomend a visit to a shoulder surgeon - not just any orthopaedic surgeon but one who does shoulders and shoulders alone - and an MRI to see what damage has been done. Pester your GP for a referral.

    As far as weight and strength maintenance - now is a good time to work on your lower body and core (abs and back) strength. When the pain settles you'll need to do a hell of a lot of work to strengthen the shoulder again.

    Good luck
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    yeah it was origionally a rugby league injury.. beleive it or not this is the 12th dislocation (but the most serious).. but doctors kept telling me "youre too young for an operation"

    so i would do my physiotherapy every day, get stronger and stronger until the physio cleared me to return to sport.. and then a few months down the track.. tragedy.

    Most dislocations happened at the start, because i was young(ger) and didnt want to get dropped from the regional team/state tryouts. i was a prop and a good one, and all i wanted to do was play football.

    Im going to get it operated on if i can, i need to get it over with, even if that means going under the knife.

    thanks for your insight, and for the record, im a boxer.
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    Let it rest. The worst thing you can do is agravate it and make it worse.

    How long will you be crippled for?

    Doesn't really matter, though. You should go to a physiotherapist. It's not like we know exactly what's wrong with you or how to fix it. And muscle has memory, so even if you lose some mass/strength during this time, you'll get it back pretty fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poop Loops
    Let it rest. The worst thing you can do is agravate it and make it worse.

    How long will you be crippled for?

    Doesn't really matter, though. You should go to a physiotherapist. It's not like we know exactly what's wrong with you or how to fix it. And muscle has memory, so even if you lose some mass/strength during this time, you'll get it back pretty fast.
    thanks. seeing the physio on monday, and soon a musculoskeletal therapist.. and i was just giving a little background, and perhaps feeling a bit sorry for myself lol.

    my coach initially said my fight will be post poned for about four weeks, but thats a rough estimate based on how long a shoulder injury generally puts a boxer out for, so well see what the quack has to say.

    cheers
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    I should clarify, Jez. I am a physio...

    Where in Oz are you?

    I'm not looking for business, just curious.
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    im in wollongong

    seeing as youre in sydney, you proborably know of it?

    and besides, if you work with footy players id think about maybe coming out to see you.

    One of my older footy mates has given me the contact number of the bloke who works with the (st george illawarra) dragons, so im not sure whether ill see that guy or what.

    My ex submission grappling coach just had a re-construction some weeks ago (he had just returned to training) and he was telling me how shitty it was.

    I am interested in just getting the ligaments repaired/replaced with a procedure iv heard about, because at 16 im not too keen on a full-reconstruction unless its the last resort.

    Ive pretty much done all i can as far as strengthening it muscularly i think, so ill see what the doctor (seeing him tomorrow) says - going for a referral.

    cheers
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    Well, I'll refrain from giving too much advice without having seen you, except to say if its popped out that many times then surgery is almost certainly where you're headed. Sounds like you've already come to that conclusion. I knew one guy who got so bad he'd pop it out rolling over in bed.

    If it's a surgeon who works with RL players, and he's a shoulder specialist (they'll usually state it on their letterhead) then I'm sure he's good. I work in the South West of Sydney but I know a couple of surgeons in Kogarah area.

    The reco is a bitch but if you've got a MA and footy background then you've got the right work ethic to make a success of it. It's actually pretty common these days and I've never seen a young, healthy person with a good attitude not get a good result out of one.
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    no worries. thats pretty much what the doc said. and yes, im going to a recommended 'shoulder guy'.

    Man, theres like a full on orthapedic surgeon/shoulder specialist/physiotherapist little community i never even knew about..

    I will be returning to the gym for legwork and cardio in about a week, over a one week period, will my metablism drop at all, or am i likely to lose any strength/fitness ??

    cheers
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    Don't worry about it. You might even gain some, because your body had a chance to rest up more.
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