Posted On:8/11/2006 2:24pm
Style: creonte on hiatus
That's a waste of $$$ IMO. You are going to buy it, use it for a few days and they you will forget about it. I'd rather keep a log of stuff I see at class, and mentally go over stuff at home, OR work on my conditioning in a way that's specific for grappling. I would do that if I were you.
****, if you have the money to blow, go for it. However, the way things are. I doubt it will be THAT useful. I guess it would be useful for practicing throws without risking hurting your partner... and that's if and only if the dummy is as heavy and stiff as a resisting man. Even then, that's such minimal gains from a $600 investment.
Meh, better work on your grappling-specific conditioning when you are not training. Try this http://www.grapplearts.com/Grip-Strength-Training.htm
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There man. Don't buy that thing. I just don't see how you are get a good return on your investment.
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Posted On:8/11/2006 2:43pm
OR... make your own sandbag :)
Style: Starting Strength
Originally Posted by Glutamine
I actually already have about $2,000 worth of weight equipment that I bought without considering that I might, you know, want to move out of my mom's house someday. I'm now trying to sell it. On top of the fact that it would be a pain to pack 1,000 pounds of metal with me, I've decided that sleeping on the floor because there's no room for a bed and worrying about putting a hole in the wall with the barbell is for the birds. As soon as I get this stuff sold, I'll be using a commercial gym.
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Then where do you plan on using the dummy?
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Posted On:8/11/2006 5:03pm
It sounds like you're reasonably well off and can afford the extra expense, so buy whatever you like.
But logically (in my head), unless the average size of your grappling buddies is 6'2", I don't see how training with a large dummy will be better than a 5'10" dummy. Get whatever is closest to your opponents.
And if you really want to grapple non-resisting dummies, $500 will buy a lot of Bujinkan classes...
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Posted On:8/12/2006 12:48am
Style: No style yet
Originally Posted by Matsufubu
It sounds like you're reasonably well off and can afford the extra expense
Not really. I've just made a lot of sacrifices and stretched my money so I could buy this stuff.
The sandbag idea looks promising. I'll try that. I might also make one of those cheap DIY dummies that I've seen linked in other threads. If it turns out I hate it, I guess I can always spend the 500 or 600 later.
Maybe it's good you guys talked me out of this. I just wish I could take classes 6 times a week.
Posted On:8/12/2006 1:11am
While everybody has already beat me to this one, I would cast a vote for skipping the dummy as well based upon my past experience with similar items.
However, if for some reason you do decide to purchase one, I would suggest staying with the standard model for two reasons. First, I would guess that it would approximate more opponents, being closer to the "average" height of males.
Second, it would be smaller and thus easier to manipulate. Perhaps it would be lighter as well. I remember purchasing a full sized, 100 pound takedown dummy when I was overly interested in highschool wrestling. Even though I outweighed the dummy tremendously, it was way beyond my capabilities to throw effectively, or even move. It is very easy to overestimate our abilities on a seemingly inanimate object.
You would, however, get a decent tax deduction when you inevitably donate it to a wrestling program. That's where mine ended up, though I didn't bother with the deduction. $600 could buy alot of beer . . .
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