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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophist
    If you're in Britain, you're almost certainly going to find judo is your best bet for stand-up grappling, as it's widespread and has some athletes at a fairly high standard ; wrestling is rarer and at a weaker level over here.

    And I've known quite a few judo dans who were capable of downing me neatly and hard and staying standing, without coming close to letting me practice any of my BJJ-influenced ne-waza. It's hard (in my experience) to control anyone who knows what they're doing without throwing though, unless there's a really huge strength gap.
    It's definitely not an easy game. Hard to get a standing RNC against someone taller, unless you're very skilled at kicking the back of the knees.

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    Stand up grappling, or "clench range" is a specific focus of Filipino Kun Tao and is common in many Silat styles. The basic idea is to put the other guy on the ground without going to the ground yourself. It usually involves off-balancing, armlocks, throws, leg manipulations/sweeps, and even "gasp" wristlocks.

    All of these are much more effective with appropriate "tune-up" striking.
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    I would so do Buttsecks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey Badger
    "clench range"
    There's a joke about grappling being gay here, but I'm too lazy to pull it out.

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    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens! supporting member

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    too lazy, or just too clenched?

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    lol :seppuku:

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    Quote Originally Posted by RunningDog
    Good point. The bouncer in question is 230lbs at least, I think it helps a tad.
    Wing chun;


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    I may be a bit biased, but with knees, and elbows, and clinching, Muay Thai is awesome at "standing grappling" range.

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    Another vote for easy to find Judo. Modern MMA clinch which is mostly Greco. Sandbag shouldering, bearhug squats and walks.

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    I could've sworn I posted this thread in DHS. **** you too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RunningDog
    All good advice. Actually a position I seem to end up in a lot is kneeling on a grounded opponent's head, while doing an armbar on him.
    Are you serious? I've been fired for that :( in aus that's considered a kick to the head, not a restraint, which means you lose license points when you do this.

    However, it's perfectly okay to snap a guys finger accidently when you're trying to move him out, GO FIGURE!

    But then, usually, i don't try to take someone down, i try to take someone out the front (or back) door.. unless of course you've taken the guy out the back door and want to take him to the ground and lay the boot in.. but that's why you get more than one crowd controller :P

    Grant.

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