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    Quote Originally Posted by Afrin
    Ok, so I did a little more searching... interesting stuff.

    I found another person who is listed on BJJ.org; John Kvenbo Munoz with United Submission Academy Unfortunarely it appears a bit farther than Dunbar's from UC Riverside. It nonetheless looks interesting.

    Now to something that made me raise an eyebrow... The Allen Academy of Riverside offers Jiu Jitsu, Kemp, Tai Chi, something called Shinsho, and weapons training. A quote from their jiu jitsu page states:


    I got their site when I did a search on MMA and Riverside. Evidently they have a MMA class as well I don't know... my first impression is that this place is a major McDojo, but I'm not very qualified at making that judgement.

    This was a picture from their MMA page, it's LOLable for one reason or another:



    Anywho.... I am stoked to check out Munoz and Dunbar. I think I'll skip on the other place.

    Here are the rates for Dunbar:


    I'm not sure what the "black belt program" and "cross-training black belt program" are. Also, I'm not sure if I get why a 3 month contract is 300 dollars or 100/month, and a one year contract is 115/month. I might be reading it wrong.

    I didn't see rates for Munoz.


    Wait a minute, read this really carefully before you continue

    Brian Allen is a close personal friend of mine. I know his skill levels and his capabilities. It seemed like you were interested in grappling therefore I did not recommend his academy. While he does what he does he's also no bullshit artist. I gaurantee him and his fighters can put you through the wall if he chose to. If you would like me to ask him what his blackbelt program pertains to then I'll ask him and give it to you guys. The guy works extrememly hard at what he does and just because he chooses to keep himself rooted in traditional rhetoric and still run a business that he does exclusively to help support his family, don't go confusing this with BS schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canuckyokushin
    I'm a guessing she just ran up and jumped forward into his kick.
    Never accidentally picked up a copy of Blackbelt Magazine I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afrin
    Here are the rates for Dunbar:


    I'm not sure what the "black belt program" and "cross-training black belt program" are. Also, I'm not sure if I get why a 3 month contract is 300 dollars or 100/month, and a one year contract is 115/month. I might be reading it wrong.

    I didn't see rates for Munoz.
    Dude that rate structure is Bullshit once it hits that 4 year contract mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho

    But this is the biggest bullshit flag at the bottom of their their FAQ page:



    To be honest, I'd suggest a combination of yoga and a spiritual study group (and perhaps a shrink) as a better means to achieve inner peace and conquering their inner demons, but that's me.

    .......Anyway, I just got the phone with Brian asked him a few questions:

    Do you have a Blackbelt Club: No, I have an Elite Team of guys I like to train with only but it's not a blackbelt club.

    Do you teach MMA: If you're talking about competition for the cage the answer is no, I'll send them to the Shark Tank or United Submission. While we train this way and we've trained this way for years if you're going to compete you need to go to a school that specifically geared toward this.


    Anybody who has questions about my academy is more than welcomed to come in and talk to me. We have a class called fighting concepts but it's not for everybody. Some people don't want to take those hits and grapple all the time, have them come on in my address and schedule is on the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega

    Brian Allen is a close personal friend of mine ... If you would like me to ask him what his blackbelt program pertains to then I'll ask him and give it to you guys.

    Omega,

    I believe the rates that Afrin posted were for Dunbar's school.

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    Yeah, I realized that after I posted. *shrug. I get defensive with my friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    Well to be fair, he was cool in his other matches but that anecdote just pissed me off because he didn't wanted to admit he could've been wrong. BTW this has nothing to do with his teaching credentials.

    Believe me I understand. I have come across a lot of shitty referees in my time. I have seen good ref's make bad calls. And everything in between. I don't envy thier position.

    If they reverse themselves (even when wrong) it opens the door to a whole slew of idiots who want to challenge them on every little issue.

    Laimon badgered Dunbar during my match. He was unfazed.

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    [sarcasm]Laimon badgering a judge. Wow, that's unheard of. [/sarcasm]

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    Well, I think I'll keep an open mind and check out all 3 places when I move up there. Thanks Omega for your insights. This is why I love this place... It's nice to have a place where I can say "hey, I have my suspicious about this place what are everyone elses' thoughts" and then be presented with the facts and relevant info. good stuff. thanks all

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