Canadian Combat Sambo Challenge - 2006

**CanucKyokushin** · Posted On: 10/21/2006 5:22pm

Sambo isn't that large here in Montreal.I've only heard of one school that teaches it.Is it open to all styles?

**Goju - Joe** · Posted On: 10/21/2006 5:44pm

There's some sport jiu jitsu tournaments in the GTA

here's a link from someones highlight from last year's provincial's

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...=wkf+jiu+jitsu

**karatefighter** · Posted On: 10/21/2006 6:16pm

thats cool seems similair, what are the rules as far as contact to the head whilst standing? Reminds me kinda of this amatuer shooto fight i watched on google video forever ago. The standup was mma gloves, shin pads and head gear full contact the ground was pure sub wrestling know that would be ideal. I havent trained a whole lot in a gi. Though i guess this could be motivation to start.

edit:
I just googled sport jits in toronto and didnt come up with any info if anyone has any info on that or the sambo stuff or anything similair (in anywhere in ontario or quebec......god knows i look for excuses to go to montreal) itwould be much appreciated.

**Goju - Joe** · Posted On: 10/21/2006 11:18pm

The clubs than mostly run tournaments are:

Milton Jiu Jitsu http://home.cogeco.ca/~miltonjj/

Hamilton school of martial arts http://www.hsma1.com

and these guys in Titenham (about 40 minutes north east of TO) http://www.sandojutsu.com/

The rules are (as stated on the Hamilton site)

Required Equipment

Sparring-Grappling Gloves
Groin Cup
Mouth Guard
Kicking Boots
Jiu-jitsu, Judo or Karate Gi

Optional Equipment

Head Guard
Shin Guards

Competition

Matches are 3 minutes long
Competitors earn points mainly by punching and kicking target areas [Head, Torso, Thighs] powerfully (but not TOO powerfully)
Points can also be gotten by throwing and pinning
A submission [choke; armlock; leglock] wins the match outright
All groundfighting is stopped after 30 seconds if there is no submission within that time

The big issue have is the interpretation of - powerfully (but not TOO powerfully)

I have been rocked in sparring with a quick jab right on the chin that didn't look like much

The gloves worn are like MMA gloves but with a lot more pading. Which is why I think it's Gi only as you really can't do **** with them with out a Gi.

**karatefighter** · Posted On: 10/22/2006 3:04pm

thnx for the info, "powerfully but not TOO powerfully" is possibly the worst rule I've ever heard so subjective. The time limit on the ground also seems alittle weak. I guess I would still compete though its not exactly what I was looking for, my search for mma-lite will continue elsewhere.

**sambosteve** · Posted On: 10/22/2006 6:39pm

Hey all,

I will be up in montreal this weekend and I am meeting with Club Kozak to schedule a 2007 tournament. We will keep you posted!

**Goju - Joe** · Posted On: 10/22/2006 9:17pm

Originally Posted by karatefighter

thnx for the info, "powerfully but not TOO powerfully" is possibly the worst rule I've ever heard so subjective. The time limit on the ground also seems alittle weak. I guess I would still compete though its not exactly what I was looking for, my search for mma-lite will continue elsewhere.

Kombatarts sometimes has in house Pankration style tournaments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTvOyvAstL0

But I think you have to be a student to attend.

My goal is to lower my leverl of suck-y-ness to actually try one.

Going to do some SJJ before hand.

SJJ can be good if you have really good reffing and have made the rules totally clear.

Also the 30 second rule is to prevent stalling so usually it's 30 seconds of scrambling, which is actually pretty realistic from and RSBD model.

Anyways not perfect but until Ontario get's it's head out of it's ass regarding MMA there's not many options.

The Sambo stuff looks great to i wish they could bring it here, but I would have to work some serious leg lock defense.

**karatefighter** · Posted On: 10/22/2006 10:39pm

Hey sambosteve that would be great, I should be healthy and able to compete by then (I've been out of commision for about two months which has been driving me alittle mad). I might hypothetically be able to field a team of guys from my university club (anywhere from 2 to 8ish depends on who wants to fight and how many rides we can organize no one want to pay for the train $$$) if the tournie is before the end of spring semester.

**karatefighter** · Posted On: 10/22/2006 10:39pm

double post.

**sambosteve** · Posted On: 10/23/2006 10:23am

That sounds very cool! I would love to have more new people involved for sure.

On the rehab note, I have had periods of being "out of commission" with a jacked up knee. It sucks.