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  1. PizDoff is offline

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    8/02/2006 3:04pm

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    Karate instructor teaches students to pull guard

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    Phoenix Residents Help in Hunt for Killers

    'This is a nice place,' she said. 'I want to keep it that way.'

    Police have no suspects in either case.

    They believe the attacks started more than a year ago, beginning with a gunman who fires from a car and has been dubbed the Serial Shooter. That assailant _ police do not know if they are dealing with a man or a woman, or if the shooter is acting alone _ is thought to have killed five people, wounded 17 and targeted horses and dogs, too.

    Another predator known as the Baseline Killer, so-called because some of the killings took place near Baseline Road, is thought to be responsible for eight more slayings and 11 sexual assaults since August. In all but one case, his victims were women. He attacks at close range.

    The Baseline Killer tends to strike in the late afternoon and evening, while the Serial Shooter usually opens fire during the overnight hours.

    Karate instructor Mike Wall has been teaching rape-awareness seminars to packed rooms since the attacks began. 'When it's bad out there, business is great here,' he said.

    Even the best self-defense tips would be worthless against someone randomly shooting from a car, like the Serial Shooter. But if the attacker gets close enough to rape, he is close enough for a good tough kick to the middle.

    Wall teaches his students to drop to their backs and kick at the attacker with their feet.

    'Women really don't know how strong their legs are,' Wall said.

    http://www.topix.net/content/ap/2877...41761076220582
    (see link for full article)

    Gets close enough to rape? Is that called raping range?
  2. john joe is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/02/2006 6:04pm


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    depends on your personal attributes i suppose... gonna be a longer range for some than others...


    on a serious note, i dont know about teaching the average joe 'to drop to their backs and kick out'. i reckon that might be assisting a suicide for most of them.


    edit: that should be 'the average jane' actually
  3. chaosexmachina is offline
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    Posted On:
    8/03/2006 1:45am

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     Style: MMA/Pankration

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    This MIGHT be a viable tactic if they knew any actual guard work.
    "The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall." - Mitch Hedberg

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  4. G-G-G Ghost! is offline

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    8/03/2006 2:18am


     Style: Muay Thai, Judo

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    Could it be that some n00bs need to learn the Search Function?
  5. bad credit is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/05/2006 9:56pm


     Style: MMA, JKD philosophy

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    Renzo Gracie with the up kick FTW! Antonio Inioki with the up kick for the draw!

    Wouldn't running away be better than flopping to your back?
  6. Poop Loops is offline
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    OOOOOOOOOOAAARRGGHH RLY?

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    Posted On:
    8/06/2006 12:44am

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    No. Self-defense means going on the offensive with your attacker, even if it means endangering your life more than you have to.
  7. Asriel is offline
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    I'd like to leave this world like I came into it: Screaming, naked & covered in someone else's blood

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    Posted On:
    8/10/2006 12:10pm

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     Style: Muay Thai (BJJ hiatus)

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    Maybe the Karate instructor is the attacker and he's brainwashing people to drop to their backs to make his life as his alter-ego easier.

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