Posted On:7/17/2003 3:15pm
Old mcHelio had a dojo..... E I E I O
And, In the dojo he had a Son..... E I E I O
With a tap tap there, and a bum **** there.... O T S S G -- (O)uch (T)hat (S)marts (S)o (G)ood!
Here a Gracie, there a Gracie, everywhere a Gracie!
Posted On:7/17/2003 4:27pm
"you and your friends form a "Gracie train" as you enter your dojo"
"machados are gracies"
i thought i read they were cousins, just machodo (or some other Gracie relative) was more open to striking as opposed to GJJ
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Posted On:7/17/2003 4:34pm
The main difference that I've seen between machado and gracie JJ is that the machados do a lot more leg locks, and the gracies focuse more on upper body submissions. That could be peculiar to the people of encountered though.
Shut up and train
Posted On:7/17/2003 4:47pm
Style: Muay Thai & BJJ
The Machados are first cousins of the Gracies, Helio's nephews.
You anti BJJ fucks can kiss my ass.
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Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
"Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
Posted On:7/18/2003 1:49am
Style: Chinese Kung Fu
WTF? Now you're starting **** with pretty much EVERY SUBMISSION GRAPPLER ON THE PLANET.
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Not quite. Side control? Half-guard? I don't see wrestlers and such spending NEARLY as much time in guard.
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Posted On:7/18/2003 2:04am
no one else seems to have posted this, so maybe I'm wrong but...
BJJ and GJJ are the same thing.
The term Gracie JJ was trademarked by Rorian Gracie when he came to the US, no one could use it without his permission (and I believe without paying him...) Everyone got around this by simply calling it Brazilian JJ.
In a recent interview, Rorian said that it was now deemed by the trademark people (sorry can't remember the US name for them) that 'Gracie JJ' was too common a term and it can no longer be trademarked. (much like the way the term xerox came to mean 'to photocopy' and the company Xerox lost the right to claim only they could use the word)
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Posted On:7/18/2003 2:20am
Fingermoon and Fisting, thanks -
That was the kind of info I was curious about.
One more thing- I would think that is someone started with BJJ or GJJ as a first art would be more likely to become a nutrider. Although BJJ is very effective style, I remember being way too much in awe of my first MA instructor. Most of the guys at the Machado school I was at were practicing BJJ as a first art . . .
Posted On:7/18/2003 8:34am
I'm not starting anything with every submission grappler on the planet.... just the one's that ride the Gracie train.
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Posted On:7/18/2003 9:14am
E I E I O.......
Posted On:7/18/2003 9:41am
E I E I O
with a Renzo here, and Royce over there,
Sakuraba kicking their asses everywhere !
"Ya can't play with my YO-YO!!!"
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