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  1. MrMcFu is offline

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    7/16/2003 5:10am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Someone educate me. I have only practiced Machado Jiu-Jitsu, first in the US through Carlos, and then in Germany through one Rigan's students. Occasionally, we have had a Gracie Jiu-Jitsu guy come and do a seminar, but it looks (to me anyway) like the same stuff we do.

    My questions are -

    Is there any big difference between Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and the other BJJ styles? (Is the Gracie style somehow superior?)

    Do people only like the Gracie's so much because they won the early UFCs, or because they are the first to bring it to the states? Just what the hell is it that creates a Gracie nutrider?

    It almost seems a little cultish to me. I know the Gracies are really awesome at what they do; But from what I have seen, there are alot of other great BJJers out there too.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    There's no difference as far as I know, it's all in the name.

    And I think it's purley because the Gracies were the forerunners, they put it under the spotlight.(thankfully)

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    Now imagine your pain is a white ball of healing light, that's right, your pain, the pain itself is a white ball of healing light....... I don't think so!
    "You realise the transformations give a man enough strength to destroy a truck with his bare hands!?
    YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

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    Posted On:
    7/16/2003 7:05am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'd have to say SLJ is correct. The Gracies were the first, and the developers of the style. And they still tend to rock. But for the most part, BJJ = GJJ, with only minor diferences in techniques here and there. AFAIK, of course.

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  4. Geek Kune Do is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Your a Gracie nutrider if (taken from another thread - These are my favorite):

    You think Helio Gracie invented everything
    speak with a fake Brazilian accent
    have a ridiculous screen name like BJJBabe
    eat lots of papaya
    have lots of Children and only use names with
    the letter R
    believe Ricksons never lost
    Crosstrain in Muay Thai and say "Thank God Helio invented Muay Thai"
    discover old judo techniques every week and act as if you've invented them
    don't get along with anyone
    pick fights at your local beach
    believe only BJJ can defeat BJJ
    believe a BJJ loss is a fluke or the opponent broke all the rules
    you and your friends form a "Gracie train" as you enter your dojo
    Helio invented the Kimono, err Gi, no Kimono
    think Kimura & Sakuraba are Japanese Gracies
    need special rules
    avoid top fighters
    are 200% sure Shannon Logan could submit Bruce Lee in 5 mins.
    believe anything Rorion Gracie says as gospel
    greet your friends with an open guard
    respect - what does that mean?

    Please feel free to add your own.







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  5. SLJ is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    You realise that groundfighting is ..... oh, sorry I now see that we're required to talk out of our ass.


    You go into McD's and order a "McHib"



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    Now imagine your pain is a white ball of healing light, that's right, your pain, the pain itself is a white ball of healing light....... I don't think so!
    "You realise the transformations give a man enough strength to destroy a truck with his bare hands!?
    YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

    "Sport ? That kind of thing's not my bag baby!" - Sammy Franco

    "This system was developed with the help of notible BJJ fighter Ribbon Muchado." - "Sifu" Anthony Iglesias
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    Posted On:
    7/16/2003 8:17am


     

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    good one SLJ. I like BJJ, but I like goofing on the Gracies (Crazies if your Jon Bluming) now and then.

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  7. SLJ is offline

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    7/16/2003 8:42am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I know, I wasn't having a go. Some of them are quite funny.

    BJJ cannot compare in anyway to the mighty CUTS, so it does not matter.


    SLJ, founder of CUTS (2003 ARR)

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    Now imagine your pain is a white ball of healing light, that's right, your pain, the pain itself is a white ball of healing light....... I don't think so!
    "You realise the transformations give a man enough strength to destroy a truck with his bare hands!?
    YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

    "Sport ? That kind of thing's not my bag baby!" - Sammy Franco

    "This system was developed with the help of notible BJJ fighter Ribbon Muchado." - "Sifu" Anthony Iglesias
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    Posted On:
    7/16/2003 8:52am


     

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    What is CUTS? and what makes it better than Gracie BJJ? Please offer a comparison.



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    Posted On:
    7/16/2003 9:05am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Certainly.

    CUTS will enable you to defeat any attacker, it is my new lethal "Street style".

    There is no need to compare, because CUTS is the best.

    It is also a total piss-take.

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    Now imagine your pain is a white ball of healing light, that's right, your pain, the pain itself is a white ball of healing light....... I don't think so!
    "You realise the transformations give a man enough strength to destroy a truck with his bare hands!?
    YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME, IN THE WORST POSSIBLE MANNER!!" - KiWarrior

    "Sport ? That kind of thing's not my bag baby!" - Sammy Franco

    "This system was developed with the help of notible BJJ fighter Ribbon Muchado." - "Sifu" Anthony Iglesias
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    Posted On:
    7/16/2003 10:15am


     

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    ahhh a SCARS type system...

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