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  1. sdave is offline
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    Klay,

    Thanks for registering! You may have noticed that some instructors get defensive when queried by Bullshido about their background.

    Personally, I appreciate it when someone (particularly a local) stops by to share. If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to come by your place some time to roll.

    I have to admit, while I'd like to know about your BJJ rank and who you've trained with, I'm REALLY interested in hearing more about your time with "Judo" Gene LeBell.

    Thanks again!

    Dave
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    Props for coming on the site and for the invite.

    Openness FTW.
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    December 2003 - Appointed by the U.S. National Martial Arts Team/Alliance to fight in the World Games to be held in Athens, Greece.

    October 2005 - Picked to be US Head Coach/Team Captain for NHB and Grappling of the World Games, Cancun Mexico
    Is the "martial arts freedom games and trade convention" the same as the "World games"?

    the link you provided was www.usnmat.net or as whiteshark pointed out http://usnmat.net/images/


    The only reference to any games on that website is the "martial arts freedom games and trade convention"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandnat
    This pic lends credibility to at least him competeing in MMA. His claims still look dubious but this looks like MMA gloves and clearly striking is involved.

    http://myspace-089.vo.llnwd.net/0045...55372089_l.jpg
    I call BS on that picture being him until it can actually be verified. There are tons of fight photos out there. This one has the face turned and it's small. It could be a hooknshoot photo for all we know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight
    I call BS on that picture being him until it can actually be verified. There are tons of fight photos out there. This one has the face turned and it's small. It could be a hooknshoot photo for all we know.
    I agree. I also cannot say for sure whether that picture is, or is not the guy I met last night.

    If we only knew what event that picture was taken at, we could see if he was or wasn't on the card. That would also answer some of our other questions (like what NHB events has he participated in. and his record)

    Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that he provides us some more info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight
    I call BS on that picture being him until it can actually be verified. There are tons of fight photos out there. This one has the face turned and it's small.
    Paul, you don't have something personal against this guy, do ya?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight
    It could be a hooknshoot photo for all we know.
    ROFL! Well, maybe he was in one of their videos (uncredited, obviously)! Of course, Phillips really DOES have pics from the HooknShoot Kings 1 DVD...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandnat
    Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that he provides us some more info.
    Absolutely. It's only been a few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdave
    Paul, you don't have something personal against this guy, do ya?



    ROFL! Well, maybe he was in one of their videos (uncredited, obviously)! Of course, Phillips really DOES have pics from the HooknShoot Kings 1 DVD...
    Dave, no, I dont have anything against the guy. I tend to not like people who misrepresent themselves. In regards to the photo comments it's for reasons that I forgot to add to my previous picture. As people know, American Top Team guys fought in HnS all the time. That photo IS from Hooknshoot in Evansville IN.

    For example look at this Debi Purcell photo from a HnS fight:

    http://www.fightergirls.net/assets/i...ooknshoot2.jpg

    If you have been to that venue (I have twice) that wall is recognizable.

    I very highly doubt that L'Onis is sporting ATT trunks in a HnS match as he is not and has never been under ATT.

    Now I can email Carlao at ATT and Jeff Osborne of HnS to verify this photo but already it looks like the claim is fraudulent.

    when combined with all the other suspect stuff, the fact he claims he is the guy in a small photo from HnS of a guy who is wearing ATT trunks and has his face covered enough to be unrecognizable is just plain over the top.
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    I can guarantee that the picture posted of the MMA match is NOT this Tiger Klay or Clay or Sensei L'Onis, Double L june bug, or whatever you want to call this guy.

    Not to mention his BJJ skills are about on par with a 6 month white belt.
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    The plot thickens.... stay tuned. More to come. ;)
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