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    Does John L. Sullivan have the REAL _ing _un??

    While I was reading yet another _ing _un thread on bullshido, I saw a pic of some wing chuners or however you want to spell it, standing and doing nothing. Then it tilted in my head, is boxing coming from _ing _un?

    Here's why I thought that:

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    As you can see, there's an obvious resemblance between these two martial artists' guard. As for me, I think it's really obvious and therefore it can't be a coincidence, can it?



    Yes it can.

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    Why God? And I was so close.
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    Search function NOOB!

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    Well I did search before and found nothing.

    My search words were "sullivan" and "_ing _un". And also "john sullivan" and "_ing _un". So I don't know maybe my search-fu isn't good enough but if you're right then I wouldn't mind seeing that thread.
    Thanks.

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    Why couldn't you wait about two months to start this thread?
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    There's at least one _ing _un sifu in the US who has theorized that bare-knuckle boxing may have influenced the Chinese style, via sailors who visited Chinese port ci ties in the late 1700s and 1800s. It's an interesting theory but AFAIK it's never been substantiated.

    We've had some discussions along these lines in the history forum - try a search there for "bare-knuckle boxing".

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    It's also been discussed on here that WWII era marines brought back the palms down style of boxing from the Phillipines.

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    I've also heard Muay Thai came from French sailors who did savate, but since the Thais didn't have shoes they used their shins.*


    We have to keep focus of certain variables like timelines, peripheral historical events,
    and ethnocentrism. Those muddle historical accuracy.

    BTW,Mendoza has the real _ing _un.


    *sourced from Saga of Socks
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    It's pretty beat up, but it is a complete copy.... supporting member
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    Form follows function.

    "If anything is gained from this, it should be you both wanting to get better so you can make up for how crappy you are now." KidSpatula about the Sirc vs DTT Gong Sau Event
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    DTT vs Sirc


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    By boxing standards the WC guy has horrible form. The boxing guy also has horrible form.

    In conclusion the only thing the boxer and the WC guy have in common is horrible form.

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