218358 Bullies, 7340 online  
  • Register
Our Sponsors:

Results 1 to 7 of 7
Sponsored Links Spacer Image
  1. rickc1970 is offline

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    2

    Posted On:
    7/21/2006 10:13pm

    Bullshido Newbie
     Style: escrima

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Rocate martial arts?

    Has anyone heard of Roger Callejo or the system he founded called"rocate" here's a link ti his site. http://www.rocate.com . The reason I ask is that I did train under him for about 4 months as we used to work together in Las Vegas as Security Officers in one of the Casinos. The only info I could find online was his website. I would have thought I would be able to find other info from other sources ifm this is a legit system. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks
  2. Goju - Joe is offline
    Goju - Joe's Avatar

    I am a Ninja bitches!! Deal with it

    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    7,856

    Posted On:
    7/21/2006 10:22pm

    Join us... or die
     Style: Improv comedy

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Rocate.....

    Sounds like something Japanese tourists do when they want to find something.
  3. rickc1970 is offline

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    2

    Posted On:
    7/21/2006 10:25pm

    Bullshido Newbie
     Style: escrima

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Well the name comes from 'Ro'ger 'Ca'llejo 'Te'chniques
  4. getgoin is offline

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    3

    Posted On:
    5/05/2007 2:24am

    Bullshido Newbie
     Style: various

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    GM Callejo is the real deal. He started Rocate Martial Arts and Rocate Escrima when he broke from the Koden Kan in Hawaii. He had instructors in several schools back in the day, he had like fifteen or something like that and went around giving lessons to the black belts in the system. When he boke from them, some schools stayed with the Koden Kan, others went on their own and some stayed with him until the closed, like most martial art schools do. As far as him legit, he has recieved rank from smoe pretty note worthy people, like Thomas S.H. Young, Subing Subing (which he inheritaded the Moro Style of escrima from), several rankings through the Koden Kan, amount others. I am sure most if not everyone has heard of Thomas Young, but some have not heard of Subing Subing. Subing Subing was the real deal, old Filipino fighter, Dan Insanto wanted to train with him, however Subing Subing had just taken on Roger Callejo so Mr. Inosanto never had the opportunity. I also chechked this story out with my JKD instructor and he confermed it, and he had very high praise for Subing Subing. GM Callejo named the system the way he did, so there would be no question regarding it heratige, American. He used no Filipino or Japanese language, no forms, no fancy or flowering techniques. Matter of fact, there are no techniques, only the knowledge of how to hit someone right. He doesn't teach techniques because nothing ever happens perfectly on the street, so why spend your time learning some fancy technique that will most likely wind up getting you in trouble.

    Like anything, you will get out of Rocate what you put into it. Don't expect to get a bunch of sparring in with GM Callejo, he's in his sixties now, but you can get the ability to mnake things work for you.
  5. Locu5 is offline
    Locu5's Avatar

    Zombie Herald

    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    3,786

    Posted On:
    5/05/2007 7:12am

    supporting member
     Style: Alliance BJJ (Blue)

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    rickc1970, the link is not to his website, but to a parked domain/faux search engine. Would you please provide a link to his school? Also, since you spent 4 months training with him, you would also be a good source of information on his status as potential Bullshido/McDojo. What were classes like? Do they spar? Compete? Did he ever make any "interesting claims"? What ranks did he claim?

    getgoin, forgive me, I am woefully ignorant of big names of that entire branch of MA, so all coattail effect is lost on me. What ranks does Callejo have? Does he have a competition record? How long have you been training under him? Can you tell us a bit about the classes and school make-up?
  6. getgoin is offline

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    3

    Posted On:
    5/05/2007 2:13pm

    Bullshido Newbie
     Style: various

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    locu5, Sorry, I wasn't rying to create a caottail effect, I was trying to point out where and whom he trained under, that is all.

    Now he mainly teaches out of his garage, he used to also teach out of a local VFW. He had wanted to open a public school, however he had some personal issues that kept him from opening a school again. His website is down, he's pretty much a non-computer person. A student was going to help but the student had some family matters took his time away. I have been under him for six years. He is a 10th degree black belt. He recieved this rank from a comittee (really just a group of other 8th, 9th, and 10th degree black belts) from Hawaii, it wasn't a self promotion. I do believe he did some competing back in the day, but we never really got onto the subject because it is not his focus today. Basically the classes were structured around the ability to adapt. He teaches beginners how and where to hit, some take downs (more as you advance), some ground grappling (more as you advance), and weapons (again, more as you advance). The grappling is not like BJJ, nothing to that technical level, it is more along the order of Judo (he studied for a while back in the day in Hawaii) where you must be able to either land with a submission, choke or break, and if you don't you only have a few seconds to get it from a resisting opponent. Weapons were focused on improvised weapons since most people don't walk around carrying an escrima stick in their pocket. Also. he is what I consider to be a non conformist instructor. He doesn't require you to conform or change your past knowledge or abilty. If you have done martial arts X of the last y amount of years he lets you keep whats working for you and just builds. If you or him see a problem a recomondation will be made, then he helps you find the solution that you are most comfortable with. There is no mistisizm or spiritual stuff. What you get is "he's gonna swing at you stop his attack and take him down." You don't know how the person will swing, their not instructed how to swing, punch, shot in, kick in any manner, and they are resistant to your attack. You defend once, he breaks down what you did, has you do it again slower with a willing opponent.
  7. SCOTTYDES is offline

    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1

    Posted On:
    8/04/2012 8:43pm

    Bullshido Newbie
     Style: Rocate/Koden Kan

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I started training with Senior Grandmaster Callejo back in 1990 in his garage in Mililani, Hawaii. Back then, his school was called, "Koden Kan Karate Association". He had several students ranging from beginner to 3rd degree BB. I earned my SanKyu Brown Belt in about 2 years. Training was intense, which consisted of katas and contact sparring which only prohibited striking to the face. We did not wear any type of equipment, so it prepared us for what went on in the street.

    I can tell you that Koden Kan style fighting has saved my life more than once. I was assaulted working as a security guard at the Mililani Shopping Center and mobbed by over 10 gangsters. You might have seen the story as it hit the news and the Star Bulletin Newspaper. They got my 6 cell battery maglite away from me and pummelled me in the head with it, but I managed to survive and stay alive. I tried to get my back to the wall, but was too far from the building, so I kicked and blocked my way out of it and also was able to drop at least 3 people. I was eventually carted away in an ambulance and received 17 staples to my head. Main thing was I was alive and I owe it to Koden Kan and the Lord God Almighty.
    I went on to join the U.S. Marines and would show other Marines takedowns and some nice joint manipulation. I went on to the Marine Security Guard Battallion and trained Marines how to escort irrate people out of embassies around the world. Then it was off to Iraq and my training kept me alive out there as well.
    I am out of the Corps and have bounced nightclubs all throughout Southern California. I dont have enough room on this page to tell you how many times Koden Kan training has helped me get monsters out of the club. I am currently one of Senior Grandmaster Callejo's black belters and still go out to Las Vegas to learn Katas and break bricks. All around, he is a great guy and if you get the chance give him a call. He never held back knowledge from anyone who has asked.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Powered by vBulletin™© contact@vbulletin.com vBulletin Solutions, Inc. 2011 All rights reserved.