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  1. DanDavis is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/14/2003 11:09am


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Last Saturday, two MMA promotions were held at the same time within 100 miles of each other: Chad Mason's Saturday Night Fights in Sioux City, IA and Victory's VFC 5 in Council Bluffs, IA. I chose to attend VFC 5 (the veteran forum members probably could have figured that one out) while some friends of mine chose to save money by attending SNF. We got together on Sunday and exchanged details. Here are some differences that we noticed:
    SNF's general admission - $10

    VFC's general admission - $20

    When the promoter charges twice as much for admission, it seems there's a huge difference in the class of people he will attract. Also, it makes it tough for him to pay out decent purses. Which brings me to the next group of differences:

    Fights that broke out in SNF's audience - 6

    Fights that broke out in VFC's audience - 0

    SNF's card - Pro's fighting bums for a bum

    VFC's card - Pro's fighting pro's for a pro

    SNF's late stoppages - Too many to count

    VFC's late stoppages - 0

    Things SNF security guards asked one of my friends on the way to the restroom: "Have you had enough alcohol to fight yet?"

    Things VFC security guards asked me on the way to the restroom: Nothing

    The differences between these promotions affect MMA's acceptance, and the fighter's careers. How?

    Politicians already consider MMA to be too brutal. As a promoter, when you've got a behemoth pro fighter pounding an unconscious little kid bloody before a referee who's just standing there laughing, how is that going to help change their minds? How about when the amateurs are drunk?

    As a fighter, how "big" does it make you feel going from fighting a talented individual your size for $1000 to fighting three 18 year-old sacrificial lambs half your size a night for $300? More importantly, what will potential promoters think of you?

    Rumor has it that Chad's been asking people where I can be found. The next time his event is held the same day as a VFC, take a wild guess. In the meantime, Chad, keep up the great work!
  2. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/14/2003 11:14am

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    Dan, nothing personal but why does it seem you're always on here bad mouthing people in your area?

    Go away I'm talking to myself
  3. MrMcFu is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/14/2003 11:14am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    What are the laws about this kind of thing in the states? Is there any kind of regulation? Stuff like this usually is only conducted illegeally in Europe from what I know.

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  4. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/14/2003 11:15am

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     Style: Chinese Boxing

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    What are the laws about this kind of thing in the states? Is there any kind of regulation? Stuff like this usually is only conducted illegeally in Europe from what I know.

    Each state is regulated individually.

    Go away I'm talking to myself
  5. SamHarber is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/14/2003 11:48am

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    In the UK these sort of events fall outside of the Boxing authorities remit, so promoters are able to do whatever they want as long as they don't breach alcohol licensing laws. Local councils have the power to stop the events from going ahead, but will not normally do anything unless a formal complaint is lodged.
    Taking responsibility for my actions since 1989
  6. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/14/2003 11:51am

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    I hate it when they double post
    http://www.bullshido.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4647&FORUM_ID=12&CAT_ID =11&Topic_Title=Chad+Mason+productions+vs+VFC+ 5&Forum_Title=Mixed+Martial+Arts+Discussion

    Go away I'm talking to myself

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