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  1. Middlemoor is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/13/2003 6:13pm


     

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    I thought they just held him until cops arrived, which isn't hard for a crowd of guys.
  2. Fisting Kittens is offline

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    Uhhhhhhhhh Kano did limit ground work but not to 15 seconds. THAT was the IOC's intervention. In Kano's day there was still a whole lot of groundwork.

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    How can they limit groundwork to 15 seconds when a winning pin is 30 seconds?
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    The limit is on inaction. If there is OBVIOUS movement or an osaekomi in progress then you can play. as soon as you stalemate for a few seconds though you get reset. and the winning pin is 25 seconds.

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    Kano never set the limit, I believe he said (paraphrase) "Train both equally, but if you have to train one more than the other, train standing."
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.
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    That's right greese1, it was in his book, Kodokan Judo, I believe.

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    7/14/2003 7:27am


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    Yes, indeed he did Greese, however he also disagreed with the people at Kosen Judo focusing on ground work to much.

    The time limit (whatever it was) was set so that ground work would all the Judo would be.
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    7/14/2003 11:08pm


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    Oh. OK. Well that's good then. That keeps people who don't know what to do on the ground from staying there.

    Going off topic, in NHB they should put a rule in that if nothing happens standing up then both fighters have to restart on the ground....
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    Yes, quite.
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