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  1. Matt W. is offline
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    Posted On:
    7/13/2003 8:33am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    That was pretty good LLL.

    The really funny thing is, after decades of people thinking all MA were "Asian" MA, and believing Samurai could beat Knights because katanas could cut through "broadswords" and Knights couldn't stand back up if they fell down, many WMA practicioners now go the other direction. There are people now that actually believe, "...the techniques generally depicted in these arts are by far superior to most of the eastern ones, both those practiced at that time, as well as those of today, in nearly every sense."

    Sad, but true.

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  2. Amir is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/13/2003 9:23am


     

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    I wouldn't discount a serious western M.A. and seriously doubt the average samurai was a better swordsman then the average dualist in 18th century France for example.


    And yet, the above message seems too inclusive and a sending sounds of "superiority" for my taste. The same could have been true if it was writing of an Asian Art though.

    Amir
  3. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    Posted On:
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    "we have also found out that the techniques generally depicted in these arts are by far superior to most of the eastern ones, both those practiced at that time, as well as those of today, in nearly every sense"

    So they are better in every way!
    Where do I sign up.

    "Robin of Locksley"

    There was no Robin of Locksley aka Robin Hood.
    There is some sketchy historical detail that there was someone who defied the local lords at that time, but thats about it.
    There are records from that time and there is no mention of either name - they came later in the stories.
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  4. Blad3 is offline

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    Posted On:
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    "Of course not... It had a lot to do with having better weapons etc. But do you honestly thing that the stuff they teach today has anything to do with what they did then... THAT is the question. BTW I am European if you thought I wasn't."

    if you;re talking about TMA then no, they're just reinactments of what the intructor(s)/orginal master(s) thought they would look like base on specifics, maybe even lies.

    "Wrestling is the Martial Art of America";
    "If you don't know how to wrestle you don't know how to fight, that's the prerequisite to fighting" David Tank Abbott
    "Training = pain." - I said that.

    PizDoff when drunk: "I'm actually MOST pissed that my target for the evening got drink...then I gave her my Bullshido Canada hoodie like a gentleman because she was outside with not much on...did I mention she barfed twice when I got our jackets...steaming barf is kinda fascinating..." - PizDoff.
  5. SamHarber is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/14/2003 4:18am

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    LLL - your thinking of George Silver, who wrote Paradoxes Of Defence.

    And guys? Try turning on your Humourmeter occasionally.

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  6. Freddy is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Thanks Kail for the info. !

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    I read about Robbin Hood he was REAL!

    "Do what thou wilt is the whole of the Law"
    Anton LaVey made me say it!
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  8. eniel is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/23/2004 7:31pm


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    sounds interesting, i dunno why everyone is hastey. almost anything would be better than a lot of eastern martial arts.

    irish stick fighting sounds like fun, lol.
  9. Stick is offline
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    Posted On:
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    That's pretty good LLL..... I want to fight like Long John Silver, yargh, prepare to be a hush-puppy matey, grrrargh!

    On a related note, I've had to deal with a few putzs here in Japan with a whole month or two of aikido under their belt who seem to be under the very distinct impression that there are no western martial arts...... it's sad. I especially lvoe how all martial arts were created in India...... right.

    If I'm not mistaken, the Olympics with their three most popular events (the pankrateon, boxing, and wrestling) predates Buddhism by a fair shake of the fucking history stick.

    Martial arts go back to the days of our monkey ancestors using sticks to avoid becomming tiger fodder. So there.
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    Posted On:
    2/23/2004 10:22pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I practice Torquemada-Jutsu.
    It's a WMA where you direct your minions to burn everyone who looks at you askance, in the name of the Holy Church.
    Advanced Katas includes Witch-Hunting, and crosstraining with Der Hexxenhammer-Do.
    Canuckyokushin:

    These women can do back flips right over my head and still land on there feet .GRrrrrrrr!

    feedback:

    THAT'S NOTHING, I USED TO KNOW SOME 12 YEAR-OLDS WHO COULD FIT INSIDE A SUITCASE AND STAY ALIVE FOR 7 OR WAS IT 6 HOURS
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