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  1. marty_farty is offline

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    Posted On:
    8/26/2002 4:40pm


     

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    is it all about the $$$$$$$

    http://www.masuccess.com/

    http://www.napma.com

    is it the AMERICAN way?

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    8/26/2002 5:06pm


     Style: Goju Ryu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    If UFC and MMA get their way, yes. It'll all be profe$$ional wre$tling with overacting and a complete loss of respect.
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    Posted On:
    8/26/2002 5:29pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Martial Arts ant possibly be thought of any LOWER than it is right now.

    6 year old black belts, the Death Touch, people LYING and saying that they can maim and kill with a punch, instructors teaching techniques that will nevr work....all of this leads up to the fact that if someone saw you wearing a martial arts uniform they would make fun of you.

    At least what is shown on the UFC and MMA is REAL. It REALLY works. When you go to a Karate tournament people LAUGH at point sparring and forms. When people attend a submission grappling event like NAGA or a Kyokushin Kumite they NEVER laugh. Thats because its OBVIOUS that what these people are doing is rooted in reality.
    When someone sees a 90lbs woman wrist lock an attacker and toss him they INSTANTLY think "BULLSHIT".

    And they are right.

    You think that there is no respect in MMA because you have never studied it.

    The competitions build heart. They require you to be in shape and you must be DISCIPLINED in that respect. If you disrespect your opponent you are DISQUALIFIED, revealing that attitude is MORE important than winning. You lwarn to TRULY respect your opponents because the sport and art are REAL. You ACTUALLy USE your techniques in the same way you would apply them in a real encounter: Against fully resisting opponents.

    Just because an art doesnt require you to scream "KIAI" or practice movements that were MAYBE usefull 500 years ago doesnt make it without the values found in those arts.

    Your confusing business practices with bad teaching. You shop EVER DAY at stores that use the very same business practices. Commercial does not mean BAD. But that really isnt the case, because what the UFC does will NEVER be comercial. Not in the same way as the traditional arts are. The traditional practitioners can hide behind forms and theory. The MMA cannot. Theirs is a physical and demanding art. You must EARN your way through.


    "Do not become entranced by impractical or useless movements. Do not be categorized as one who "Learns all there is to know about less and less until he ends up learning everything there is to know about nothing." -Ed Parker
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


    Reverse punch Kiaii!!!
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    Posted On:
    8/26/2002 5:35pm


     

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    PeedeeShaolin is correct as all hell.
  5. stencil is offline

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    8/26/2002 6:41pm


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    *Yawn* You MMA people are just as brainwashed as those 6 year-old TKD blackbelts.

    In one breath you shout discipline and respect and in another you disprespect the history of martial arts.

    I have absolutely nothing against MMA - I study it as well as a traditional martial art (as such, you're wrong about that and making assumptions before asking, another sign of a lack of respect).

    I do, however, have major issues with UFC and the MMA kids who are running around believing that they can take down anyone into an instant submission. To me, they're just as bad as the "touch of death" fatties.
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    8/26/2002 7:08pm


     

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    The world is ending! I agree with PD
  7. stencil is offline

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    8/26/2002 8:04pm


     Style: Goju Ryu

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    Don't bother explaining why.
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    8/26/2002 8:09pm


     

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    hmmm... Maybe those kids need to be smacked huh?

    Migos heteroasexually challaged (everyone all the time)
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    8/26/2002 8:50pm


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    Nah, they just need to be taught by a teacher who deserves to be teaching.
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    8/26/2002 8:58pm


     

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    "I have absolutely nothing against MMA - I study it"

    not sure about what you are talking here... do you study MMA? what's mma, never heard of such martial art.

    my definition of MMA here:
    http://www.mcdojo.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=405&FORUM_ID=12&CAT_ID= 11&Topic_Title=Short+question+about+MMA+or+not +MMA%2E&Forum_Title=Mixed+Martial+Arts+Discuss ion

    *uno*
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