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  1. TaeBo_Master is offline
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    And BTW Dochter, I totally agree. Pullups are a MUST.

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    >(I don't overdo bicep training because overdeveloped biceps tend to >slow down punching from what I've noticed in myself and others).

    Article from CHarles Staley:
    Strengthening the Antagonists and Stabilizers

    Muscles work in pairs- for every muscle in the body, there is another muscle that is capable of opposing its force. This "pairing" mechanism is how we are able to move with precision of movement and speed. However, when one part of this pair becomes too strong in relation to the other, force output capability suffers.

    Unfortunately, many athletes unknowingly reinforce this imbalance every time they train, thinking they are respecting the principle of specificity by training only the prime movers (or "agonists"). An example would be a martial artist who reasons that since the quadriceps muscle extends the leg during kicking, the quadriceps should receive the brunt of the training focus. Before long, the hamstrings (which are the antagonists in kicking movements) are weak in proportion to the quads, and power output declines. At this point, the student may conclude that weight training "slows you down," because for him, it did.

    Here's the problem in the above example: the weaker the antagonists are, the sooner they will contract and oppose the prime movers (to prevent joint hyperextension), resulting in a slower movement. But stronger antagonists are less sensitive to this protective response- the body "knows" that they are strong enough to decelerate the limb at the last possible moment. The next time you watch elite boxers on TV, notice the development of the lats and biceps. Great punchers always have well developed antagonists.

    Insufficient stabilizer strength also limits power output, for very similar reasons. Stabilizers are muscles which anchor or immobilize one part of the body, allowing another part (usually the limbs) to exert force. The most important stabilizers are those of the trunk- the abdominals and trunk extensors. If the motor cortex detects that it can't stabilize the force provided by the prime movers, it simply won't allow the prime mover to contract with full force. In other words, the force output of the prime movers is limited by the strength of the stabilizer muscles.


    So according to that, having well developed bi-cepts (and back) should speed up punching. Thought you might like another opinion.
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    oh sorry, the rest of that article is here:

    http://www.myodynamics.com/articles/m.a.strength.html
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    u guys train hard. I feel bad :(
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    Hmmm...I just teach lessons 50 hours a week and run 3 miles every other day.
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    I recommend using free weights only, they are more compound movements invloved. Some workouts require them though. I also hit the bag after bench pressing and also jump rope after squats and calf raises.

    I work chest, tricep, abs on monday and friday.

    wednesday and saturday shoulders, biceps, and fourarms.

    tuesday and thursday, legs, calf, and back.

    I take Sundays off and don't run much because of flat feet I got stress fractures to much.

    I would but a lot of emphasise on bench press, military press, squats, and deadlifts. Supplement creatine and BCAA's by protein supplements. (YOULL HEAL FASTER BETWEEN WORKOUTS.)
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    Interesting. Good stuff Paralax.
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    My workout routine this week:

    Monday: 6pm 1 hour GJJ
    Tuesday: 5pm 1 hour GJJ
    Wednesday: 6pm 1 hour GJJ
    Thursday: 9am 30 minutes Private Class GJJ
    Saturday: 10am 1 hour GJJ
    I'm gonna take Friday off and Sunday they Academy is closed.

    I have become the ultimate nutrider. I have also started the Gracie Diet. I got a little sick with stomach flu about 2 weeks ago, Rorion sat me down for 45 minutes, gave me the paperwork to read on what to eat and explained to me what I need to do with the Gracie Diet. This is the same diet as Helio eats, and he's 91!

    Btw, I'm down to 245lbs. So it's working coupled with the training.



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    Hey Boyd, for doing crunches people usually hold plates if you want more resistance.

    I like to do pushups, abdominal bridges, squats, deadlifts, sumo deadlifts and straight legged deadlifts without weight. Anything else I am too lazy to bother with. Maximum time working out a day-half an hour.
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