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  1. Phrost is offline
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     Style: Goju, mixed

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    I just registered today. I study Shaolin Goju, which is under Shinjimasu International.

    A description of this can be found here:
    http://members.cox.net/bwendeln/shinjimasu.htm

    One thing though about our system is that we still study forms. Now we did go through the application of the forms, but to me they still were not very applicable. To me forms are a good way to waste time and make $$, or a good way to get some excercise. I guess a lot of people are hung up on tradition, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But just make sure you tell your students that forms are not practiced so you can learn to fight.

    I think any system of martial arts can be as good as any other, as long as it is a complete system, and not just a "style." What I mean is that you are learning all aspects of martial arts, not just one area. With that being said, it primarily depends on the instructor.




    Edited by - Toj on August 27 2002 15:03:57
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    anybody here at mcdojo consistantly train with 1 teacher for more than 10 or 15 years?
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  6. Choke is offline

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     Style: World 10-3 Ryu Karate

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    Goju Karate for 2 years. TKD when i was a kid. I think everyone i know has taken Karate or TKD as a kid. It seems like mcdojo schools use the banner of traditional styles the most to make their money. Lately I've seen a lot of shady Kung Fu schools in my area too.
    "The longer I live the more I see that I am never wrong about anything, and that all the pains that I have so humbly taken to verify my notions have only wasted my time."

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    My training has been:

    - traditional wushu (wutao, hungar, bagua, shaolin northern fist) - 10 years
    - contemporary wushu (chanquan, nanquan, sanshu) - 10 years
    - weights lifting - 8 years
    - western boxing - 1 year
    - gymnastics - 1 year

    All of the above has been overlapping at times, so my total time training is 19 years to date (started at age 11).

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    5 Years in Shaolin Kempo Karate - This was the McDojo I went too. I left because I was an assitant intructor and I needed to make more money, but I couldn't afford to pay for classes when I stopped teaching (they were training me for free because I was an instructor). I never went back because I found the real history of the system, plus all the shizzle talking about them I heard and dismissed turned out to be true.

    1 Month of Shaolin Kung Fu - left because the instructor mixed different styles together and I wanted a more traditional school

    1 Year in Wing Chun Kung fu so far. This is the style that totally agrees with me, I can easily see me doing this for the rest of my life.

    And in response to Toj's remark about forms not teaching somebody how to fight, that's a bunch of bull. Forms should showing you to move and put techniques together, which is a major part of fighting.

    "But some apes gotta go, so we kill the ones we don't know" - 'Aple shall never kill Ape' by The Vandals
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    matzahbal wrote ďAnd in response to Toj's remark about forms not teaching somebody how to fight, that's a bunch of bull. Forms should showing you to move and put techniques together, which is a major part of fighting.
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    I specifically said that forms are not very applicable. There is SOME application, but itís a VERY small part of real fighting, not a major part of fighting as you said. Donít teach forms and say doing these will make you a good fighter. There is so much more to it than that.

    There is an article by Grandmaster Ip Chun located here.
    http://www.qimagazine.co.uk/56_4article.htm

    Here is a quote from that article.
    ďIn Wing Chun we have an exercise called Chi Sau that is very good. If you donít know how to fight, then this exercise helps to teach you how to fight. If you only studied the forms of Wing Chun, then you would still not know how to fight.Ē

    Spoken by the Grandmaster himself.

    There are many aspects of martial arts, each of which are designed to build certain skills - physical conditioning, timing, reflexes, etc. Forms instill movements into muscle memory. You still need to develop the "fighting attributes" required to successfully implement those movements.

    I just think there are better ways to instill movements into muscle memory than forms. Just practicing combos in it self will put those movements into muscle memory. Also, moving in a form is nowhere near reality to moving in a fight. You learn timing and movement by having a partner. Invisible partners just donít cut it.
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    1 year of Raikenryu, a hybrid Japanese style, 7 months of tkd/hapkido, and a number of other things i picked up.



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