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    "you do a double jum sau"
    jum sao meaning "pouring hand"



    Osiris and others-well good for you
    my grip strength is scary....well almost
    just compared it to everyone that doesn't train it

    I like to grip hard around the neck, if my hands are big enough, a lot the times their eyes already begin to water and I can slip behind them for rear naked choke or whatever.....


    http://www.ironmind.com/
    is interesting.....
    I'd like to see how much my grip strength is...

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    This is one of those things that works well agains newbies, untrained people, and off course WC practitioners (couldn't resist).

    If you grab my trachea with one arm, I will gladly shoulder lock you. Every time.

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    possable, but as a test seize your own trachae, and touch your fingers together behind the cartalidge............. now wake up, clear up the vomit and never do things you read on the internet again!

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    It will never get to the point of touching fingers behind the cartilidge.

    Try grabbing you trachea and then flex your neck muscles. Unless you have one weakass neck, you won't even feel the trachea, much less be able to grab it.

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    That is why you tuck your fucking chin. If you don't do that you deserve what you get.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.

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    lol
    superdave!
    I'm going to have to take you out back and beat you for that one....

    That one made my day.

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    Here's a sweet rear choke with one hand - once you have your feet hooked in, wrap your arm around your opponent and then tuck that hand behind your head/neck. Then you simply turn to look at your gasping opponent to tighten the move.
    It works very well if you have the position - if they tuck in, you need to use both arms.

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    wow, i just tensed all my neck muscles and the pressure came of loads, not enuf to stop a ripping motion tho, but good (see you can learn stuff of the net) then a squeezed a little to hard and now feel sick!
    tuckin the chin in helps, obviouly you take the chances that are there, pre emtivly they work fine, sometimes you need to crank the head up with a palm to the chin are pressure to the philtrum/eyes/forhead from behind,

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    eagle claw/tiger's claw to the throat can be blocked with a chin drop. better be an ingrained reflex however.

    i personally use the tracheal grab to execute biset luar(o soto gari). you can deliver one hell of a melon smash by driving him over backwards with the throat grip.

    a quick snatch can damage the hyoid bone and cause death by suffocation(internal obstruction and swelling obstructs the airway).

    "sieze the trachae not the entire neck and rotate it, its one of the funda-mentals of ling lum, ive used it without the rotation to take out a very large person who didnt like me"

    that's the stuff. careful with that.

    "sumat about sisters???

    lost me here. sumat? messin with someone's sister?

    HAPKO3,

    pivoting to the lock is another excellent defense, changes the whole setup. if you have a fast shoulder i believe you will counter this. in kuntao we will try to drop and control one wrist and we eagle the throat. this can stop a pivot defense.

    i would suggest that anybody who has not done this technique before should take it very easy. this can hurt someone seriously with little effort.

    "now wake up, clear up the vomit and never do things you read on the internet again!"

    good advice.

    peace.

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    rear naked choke with one hand....works...

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