Co-ed grappling: Ladies, what do you need from us?

**Blad3** · Posted On: 6/11/2003 10:34am

play spot the differnce soo soo...<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

"Wrestling is the Martial Art of America";
"If you don't know how to wrestle you don't know how to fight, that's the prerequisite to fighting" David Tank Abbott

**Carbon** · Posted On: 6/11/2003 11:27am

I've rolled with like 3 girls and none of them really challenged me and it was also like 2 months since I've grappled a girl and I've only been doing BJJ off and on for like 4 months. I wasn't even going as hard as I could.

They all complain about when I accidently do something and they start going OW OW OW and I'm like are you alright and I have to stop and apologize.

Then when I roll with a guy and I'm going all out I hear her in the corner saying why doesn't he go that hard with me? I'm thinking to myself its impossible because your way to prissy for me to own you.

Also this other girl who was so ridiculous she goes to all the classes but she never likes rolling with guys for some reason. She has some issue or something and she never wants to do grappling at the end of class. I roll'd with her once and right when I passed her guard and got side control she tapped and said she couldn't really breathe that well.

I'm like no **** you can't breathe I'm cranking your neck into my chest while laying ontop of you, but oh well maybe there is a women that will give me a challenge soon enough.

**Blad3** · Posted On: 6/11/2003 11:44am

There are MANY good women fighters out there, many of which would kick the asses on 75%-99% of this board...IMHO of course <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

"Wrestling is the Martial Art of America";
"If you don't know how to wrestle you don't know how to fight, that's the prerequisite to fighting" David Tank Abbott

**MrMajutsu** · Posted On: 6/11/2003 7:35pm

It is good to see people talking about the limits of technique to overcome physical differences. This is what the Theory and Technique Gracie book calls "The Fundamental Problem of the Martial Arts". You could test this scientifically, say in BJJ, by having different belt levels and lean body weights (weight minus fat) compete and see exactly how many lean weight pounds each belt is worth on average. I have had the experience (I'm a smallish guy 5'10" 160 low fat) of outtapping overrated females, and even had the reaction with the crying and disillusion on their end mentioned above. Its nice to see the truth on Bullshido, as some love to pretend they're going to take out your local methed-up Incredible Hulk with their dim-fuk or dim-mak or whatever it's called. "Wimins gots limits" in hand to hand combat, on average. That's material fact.

**elipson** · Posted On: 6/11/2003 7:43pm

If you get wood while sparring with me, that's a compliment as far as I'm concerned.

I'm adding this to my sig!!!

"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"
-Ghandi

"I have found the essence of Bushido: to die!"

**MrMcFu** · Posted On: 6/14/2003 7:50am

Good one MrMcFu, I'm sure my female training partners will like it when I grab them when they're trying to open their car, rip off their clothes, and generally humiliate them. Because, you know, a rapist or mugger isn't gonna go easy on her just because she's smaller or weaker. Hell, why don't you just KILL the worthless bitch.

Down boy, I am not talking about doing whatever it takes to make them tap. Likewise, I hope she doesn't try to reach inside my cup and twist . . .

Sifu Emin - Did you see that?
Me - (gasping) No, but I can't breathe yet.

**kusa** · Posted On: 6/14/2003 1:26pm

you should train at there same strength level, otherwise you aint gonna be learnin much, this way they get to practise technique in a progressive resistance environment and you get to fine tune your position and defensive skills, if you just use your strength your just on an ego trip, couple of guys where i train, when they first started randori ground and stand up they used there supioror strength to lock there arms out and freeze up, a few slaps and a quick skin grab soon negate the strength difference.
in short you would have to be very romo not to encorage focused women to train with ya.....
back to the steriod freaks.....

**Choke** · Posted On: 6/14/2003 1:45pm

Most women don't spar full contact with me. Pulling punches and kicks is fucking obnoxious and a waste of time. If you want special treatment because youre a woman than get the **** out of the dojo.

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