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7/18/2003 9:29am--
Classic DILLMAN KNOCKOUT seminar. I study pressure points , not this way we target for punchs, kicks, and jointlocks pain is pain. I think they would have a problem when the attacker well .... attacked. Moist attackers do not stand there lightly holding your shirt.
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Wahts the psychology of this? some guys beleive in BS so much it actally exists in their own world. as a result, dillman techs only work on other dillman practitioners...
http://www.yumadki.com/Videos/ron-dana.mpeg i like this one, cuz when he gets KO'd, first he relaxes (cuz he's "KO'd") as he falls faster he actually RAECTS by moving his hands the way a falling conscious person would, then when he's caught by the two assts, he relaxes again.
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http://www.yumadki.com/Videos/barry1.mpg
wow but thsi one is convincing cuz his fall looks realistic...howver when the asst helps him up by grabbing the the "unconscious" guy's hand, he pulls himself up. (his elbow is tense)
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yeah, i saw a couple of people tuck their leg under as if doing a backwards breakfall.
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7/18/2003 12:52pm--
To there defense, I don't think many of these techiques are meant be complete knockouts in the traditional sense.
Most of the people look stunned and not fully in control of their movements, not unconsious. I believe that a short circuiting of motor control is more accurate description of what these guys are going for that a tradtional KO as seen in MMA or boxing.
This explains why some try to break their falls and most immediately have their eyes open and are talking to their "rescuers".
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yes its called faking it.
Most of the people look stunned and not fully in control of their movements, not unconsious. I believe that a short circuiting of motor control is more accurate description of what these guys are going for that a tradtional KO as seen in MMA or boxing.
seriously: i already explaind this. if you strongly strongly believe soemthing is true, ur mind will play tricks on ursef so ur body really thinks its working. but of course, its still mental. since ur actally awake, ur instincts and reflexes are still active.
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I understand what your are saying, it just like when a religious healer lays hands on someone and they pass out and flop around.
And it alsso is possible that having several rescuers run in, help obscure some of the tell-tale signs of faking it.
I was punched at school once, and I got knocked down. A friend of mine ran over to "help" me up. By trying to pull me up he acutally inhibited my abilty to stand up noramlly. He was unknowningly working against me, and it made it look like I got knocked out when I really wasn't. He wasn't even trying to do it on purpose and he made the other guy look more impressive than what he really was.
But my point from before was, if this stuff actually worked, like it was supposed to, by disrupting chi flow, blood flow, electrical impulses, or whatever it is likely these people wouldn't lose all consiousness and the abilty to move their limbs and wouldn't look myuch different. Like trying to walk on a foot that has fallen asleep, the limb would work, just not normally or effectviely. You can't say, that guy tried break his fall so he was faking it.
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