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    I can't remeber the differences between all the different styles and rule systems that exist in wrestling, so for the sake of clarity, I'm referring to any wrestling styles that operate under a limited rule system and include submissions. You know, a style you'd find in most NHB fights. I don't know if I'm being maddeningly vague here, so I'll apologize in advance. I'm sorry.

    Anyway, my question. Most submission wrestling books I see at the bookstore don't look very much different from BJJ. Is this just because I, unfamiliar with grappling, have an "it all looks the same" mentality? I've heard people make references to wrestling-related throws, like the suplex, and that wrestling has a great standup grappling system. Could someone explain to me what's so great about this? Thanks.

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    Wrestling, as in free-style or Greco-Roman, are primarily focused on takedowns and pinning the opponent. They lack any sort of submission.

    There are many styles of submission grappling. For the most part, they are the same.



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    I think a lot of thier takedowns are pretty crappy. Well, not crappy, limited. By limited I mean that a lot of them make good wrestling sense when there are no submissions or striking. Throw those things in and a lot of the stuff becomes dangerous.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.

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    What does Wrestling have to offer? High-impact takedowns that actually work against a fully resisting opponent.

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    Naw, greese1 is right, wrestlers will never compete well in fighting events that have striking or submissions. Don't you guys watch UFC and Pride?

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    Talk to me about the different rule systems of wrestling. The pieces of wrestling I know all come from an overall submission grappling kinda of training.

    What is free style, greco-roman, or any other style out there. What are its pros and cons?

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    I get that Os, what I'm looking for is detailed explanations of the differences between Free style and Greco-Roman. + any other wrestling styles I'm unaware of.

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    Take a Gi off a BJJ guy and let's talk. Most BJJ guys take wrestling to improve their no gi game. Submission wrestling concentrates more on take down and pin position for dominance.

    Go away I'm talking to myself

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    Take a Gi off a BJJ guy and let's talk. Most BJJ guys take wrestling to improve their no gi game. Submission wrestling concentrates more on take down and pin position for dominance.

    Go away I'm talking to myself
    You wanna undress a guy and get in a position to dominate him?

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