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  1. Kungfoolss is offline

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    wikipedia is now a valid source of information?
    From what I've seen, they do a pretty decent job.

    Know what I mean->

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml...do&redirect=no
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    If i remembered only those of Minaoto lineage can be bestowed the title of "Shogun"(full name: Seii Taishōgun ) by the Emperor
    I think you mean Minamoto, minato was never a power wielding clan-family in the national sense. and it wasn't just the Minamoto, the Japanese had dynasties. The Minamoto came to power during the Genpei wars, when they defeated their rivals the Taira clan in 1185. They yeilded their power to the Ashikagas who later on yielded the reins to the shugo-daimyo.

    My understanding of Japanese history was that the Emperor reigned as a divine figurehead while the Shogun actually commanded the military power, and thereby truly ruled the country.
    the emperor reigned, but he did not rule. the emperor's power pretty much ended with the yamato clans rulership. From then on the family-clans held power. Clans like the Fujiwara, practiced marriage politics to become regents and keep the emperors too young to actually weild power. The Shoguns always were the power holders in Japan. The only exception was Emperor Godaigo's 'restoration', which attempted to establish an emperial rulership, but failed miserably with the Ashikaga usurping power from him.


    From which kenshin totally flipped out and killed everyone...
    God, stop watching anime you twat. OR at least don't quote it as some kind of historical precedent, as if you had some kind of real knowledge on the subject....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jubei33
    I think you mean Minamoto, minato was never a power wielding clan-family in the national sense. and it wasn't just the Minamoto, the Japanese had dynasties. The Minamoto came to power during the Genpei wars, when they defeated their rivals the Taira clan in 1185. They yeilded their power to the Ashikagas who later on yielded the reins to the shugo-daimyo.
    If there is something unique about Japanese political culture,it is this thing known as 'branch family',just like kyokushin with IKO1 as main,and IKO2 and IKO3 and others as branches~~~
    Ashikaga family is a branch family of Minamoto,and other family branches out fomr it:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashikaga_clan
    If i am not wrong there is a Japanese PM Hosokawa Morihiro who came from the Hosokawa family,which cam from Ashikaga family,which is a branch from Minamoto~~
    Other Minamoto branches are Tokugawa(who established the last bakufu in Japan),Takeda family of Kai etc.~~~
    More about Minamoto clan:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamoto
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    yes this is true, but only in the respect that third cousins are considered family. Furthermore, all families claimed lineage from the Yamato (emperor's) line and because of the system of marriage pollitics this is for most circumstances true. The branch family was system of politics and alliance and not necessarily of actual blood relations.
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