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    With the german longsword, it appears to be the range at which the weapons are in contact but we aren't grappling yet. When we first started working it, I was under the impression I would just break out and clinch whenever I wanted, but the instructor was able to maintain the range fairly well. This is different from my previous and ongoing weapons experience(Fencing and FMA) where weapon contact rarely lasts longer than it takes to beat-and-go.

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    Also, since I have had exactly ONE lesson, someone with more ARMA experience(DDLR or AnnT, etc) may want to give a clearer explanation.

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    u guys are a bunch of assholes , how sad discussing martial arts , especially matt.w
    ur about fucking 40 , get a life.

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    I'm waiting for the ABC Afterschool Special moment where Rosco breaks into tears and shouts, "I CAN'T READ!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by troll
    You guys are a bunch of assholes. How sad discussing martial arts, especially Matt W.
    You're about fucking 40! Get a life.
    He's about fucking 40 and can beat the everloving crap out of you. On top of that, martial arts is far more useful than a PC game nobody plays. Yes, troll = fed.

    Actually on topic, however, I'm in a group that also practices WMA, dealing heavily in armored combat. I've been looking at a lot of the resources that Arma has and it's been quite helpful, especially since most of the guys I practice with are former LARPers as opposed to WMA scholars. (Experience still counts for far more, as the nice cut on my forehead is evidence of. Nothing like having your helm knocked off to give you a rush!) Since I'm terribly out of shape, I was wondering if there was any advice around for conditioning that gears toward a continual bearing of weight, as the armor can get upwards of 120lbs. Sparring definitely helps, but unfortunately short of getting a pell it's tough to practice outside of our weekly meetings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyos
    I'm terribly out of shape, I was wondering if there was any advice around for conditioning that gears toward a continual bearing of weight, as the armor can get upwards of 120lbs. Sparring definitely helps, but unfortunately short of getting a pell it's tough to practice outside of our weekly meetings.
    You could try exercising with someone my size hanging on your back.

    Seriously, 120lbs? I thought full plate was only around 50-60lbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Money
    You could try exercising with someone my size hanging on your back.

    Seriously, 120lbs? I thought full plate was only around 50-60lbs?
    Seriously. Between the gambeson, chain, and all the plate it gets up to about that. Part of the reason is the thicker gauge of the armor, as well. The Arma folks will go to a solid hit at a weak point, but a good deal of our fights go to the yield. A solid headshot in a 14 gauge helm will ring a lot less than a 16 gauge, which is the minimum thickness for what we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selfcritical
    Also, since I have had exactly ONE lesson, someone with more ARMA experience(DDLR or AnnT, etc) may want to give a clearer explanation.
    I'm not involved with ARMA but I've done a fair bit of similar training and armored sparring with the two-handed sword. If we're talking about winding as a range, then your chi sau analogy was pretty apt; the old German sword masters referred to winden and binden (literally "winding" and "binding") to cover a whole class of techniques between striking range and clinching range (bearing in mind that you can still strike or cut with a sword at close range, etc.) It's similar to chi sau in that it involves relies heavily on sensitivity skills; this sensitivity was called fuehlen ("feeling") and it forms the basis of many trapping, redirecting and disarming techniques.

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    Chi-sau type stuff is a lot more useful with weapons because instead of touching you with some weak backed ho **** I can cut ya.

    Personally I love using the bind to close to ringen am schwert range and fighting from there.

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